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Hey guys...ain't been around for a Long time...Well...Been around but, Not Active.

Anyway, What do y'all make of this marking on a 1937 marked Receiver Bridge, 2 line VZ24 [on the left]

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Not a P SerialNo. In fact No Prefix on serial number

 

Thanks

I'm just curious...

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^^ Thanks doc...that is my thought too...but, I thought there was a P or C prefix in the "Official"

Chang Kai Sheck Mauser...How the Heck do ya spell that ya Recon????

 

Also do ya suppose the Bolt should have some similar marking??

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In the early 80's after Pres Reagan reversed Carter's chicken sh!t import restrictions. The Red Chinese although being Commies but not opposed to making a fast buck. Uncovered huge caches of arms that were buried underground by the Maoist regime. Some were well preserved, some were crudely preserved and most were simply buried.

About that time I recall seeing an 03 Springfield and several Mauser Broomhandles with Chinese stampings at a gun shows. Having an FFL at the time. I ordered two 03 Springfields, opting for and paying a few bucks more for the fair vs poor condition. One was completely painted black with a Chinese symbol spray painted white on the buttstock. The other one having some exterior finish and a piece of rope attached to the front swivel was like a rust bucket inside. Both had heavily pitted bores but according to the 80 something year old man that bought them. He told me one was a good shooter after having difficulty opening the rusted bolt.

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^ So...Might have been anything,

In todays world I would call condition Fair. The Bolt has one Marking [besides a SN which I can find.

It is best described as a 4 bladed propeller in a circle. On the Root of the Bolt handle.

Matters Not I guess. I am Intrigued by it, and Am putting it in a pretty good piece of wood and Hang it on the wall.

Damn wall is getting Full!!!!

 

Thanks guys for your insight.I appreciate it.

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I asked a Chinese national woman at work. She said that half, or part of the characters are missing, as you can see from the line of rust or whatever, and there is "traditional Chinese" and "modern Chinese" writing that are different and to be considered here as the Chinese government simplified the written language in 1950 to encourage more literacy. She said that from what she can see, it looked like modern Chinese writing, and that it says 'cao lian' and there are lines over the 'a's if you write it with English characters. Roughly, it translates as "group practice," and that you can google up 'cao lian' and probably get more info/translations.

 

So, based on her comments and the known history of Europe and China, I would speculate that the rifle was purchased post-1950 by the Chinese on the surplus market for practice use, perhaps by reservists or militia or schools or for training?

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Found this

"Jiao Lian" left to right in simplified form. It is applied by the militia after mid-50s. Jiao means teach and Lian means practice. Basically it is for training purpose.

 

Nuff about that huh??

 

Thanks Bunches...

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  • 4 weeks later...

Well...Not done yet

Seems that a 1937, without a crest [bare 1937], without serial prefix, and without acceptance marks. May have been contract production. So...By a Looong stretch, this arm may have been sent to China from the Factory!!!

 

It's My fantasy, and I will embelish it in my own way!!!!

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