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JRH

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Hey Guys,

 

I was recently looking at a nice Commercial FN Action that I know has been extremely well taken care of since at the late 50's (possibly one owner since original and rarely if ever shot). While looking it over I quickly noticed it was drilled and taped in the side of the reciever for a Lyman 48 receiver sight. My question is, I usually look down upon these tapped actions as inferior to those that have not been drilled, (not factory original). However, in this particular case the actions owner stated that these actions came from the factory drilled and tapped for these mounts. Is this true? Also, do these holes lessen the value of the reciever? If so why/ why not?

 

As always any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

JRH

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I won;t go so far as to say ALL FN's were d&T'd for a receiver sight but a good many were. I have some and that is the way they came from the factory. There is nothing that would make this inferior to another factory action without the holes.

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Hey Guys,

Also, do these holes lessen the value of the reciever?

 

As always any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

JRH

 

The holes might give you something to complain about if you're trying to negotiate a lower price. Personally I don't feel it will lesson it's value any. I'm more inclined to think it would enhance the value. Wouldn't stop me from buying it if the price was right. Complain about it, ask the seller if he has the original filler screws. Dazzle him with BS "I don't really know, I saw one recently that wasn't drilled and tapped" then make a lower offer.

 

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The holes might give you something to complain about if you're trying to negotiate a lower price. Personally I don't feel it will lesson it's value any. I'm more inclined to think it would enhance the value. Wouldn't stop me from buying it if the price was right. Complain about it, ask the seller if he has the original filler screws. Dazzle him with BS "I don't really know, I saw one recently that wasn't drilled and tapped" then make a lower offer.

 

Thanks for the Advice guys,

 

The original filler screws are in the action and the action appears as if it was born yesterday. The gun is a finished product being fully stocked etc, and is extrememly well done to say the least. I will try to haggle a little with the seller but as you can tell this point won't give me much leverage. As it is the stock has two scratches on it that have already brought the price down considerable. (not that they should as it appears that they could be easily removed).

 

In the end it comes down to whether I want to the spend more money on another gun I really don't need...!! :rolleyes:

 

JRH

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In the end it comes down to whether I want to the spend more money on another gun I really don't need...!! :rolleyes:

 

JRH

 

the answer to that of course is YES! How can you not buy a nice FN Mauser? Provided price is good.

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the answer to that of course is YES! How can you not buy a nice FN Mauser? Provided price is good.

 

Z,

 

If you only knew....this is one of those that could haunt me the rest of my life if I let it get away.

 

JRH

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Z,

 

If you only knew....this is one of those that could haunt me the rest of my life if I let it get away.

 

JRH

 

Oh, I know, I know all TOO well, lol.

 

What is the asking price?

 

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What is the asking price?

 

Rather high....however, in light of the fact that it is a fine complete gun it is actually reasonable. I guess the best way to explain it would be to say that I could not have the gun duplicated; and if I could, it would cost well over twice the current asking price to do so.

 

Really the only thing that needs to the adressed on the gun are the minor dents on the wood, (other than that the gun is 100% inside and out). While that is not something I would be comforatable doing on a gun of this caliber, I don't think it would cost much to fix even if I had a respected stockmaker handle the job. (Any thoughts on the stock work Z?)

 

 

JRH

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Wow...Unbelievable

 

Just my luck...after I began discussing the terms of purchasing this gun the seller immediately started having second thoughts about parting with the gun.

 

He just emailed me to tell me that he has decided not to sell the gun!! He actually closed the public offering of the sale of the gun a minute before emailing me to say he had decided not to sell it....

 

I guess I will be waiting for this "once in lifetime opportunity" to come along for the first time again... :(

 

JC

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Don't give up on it. If you haven't done so already, let him know if he changes his mind you're ready to buy it. Chances are good if he ever gets back to you he might be hard up for money and you will be in the right position to negotiate a lower price. You can always start shopping for a Sears (JC Higgins) Model 50 and use it's FN Mauser action to build your own. I lucked into one apx a year ago. I can't recall the exact price, I believe it was less than 300. I got a deal because it has a forked up stock.

 

Look familiar?? This is my JC higgins Model 50, 30/06.

 

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Don't give up on it. If you haven't done so already, let him know if he changes his mind you're ready to buy it. Chances are good if he ever gets back to you he might be hard up for money and you will be in the right position to negotiate a lower price.

 

Thanks AZ,

 

I let him know I am still interested. After finding out his history with the gun and the builder I don't think he is the kind of guy that is hard up for cash...

 

JRH

 

I guess that know that the sale is closed...here are the details....

 

Jerry Fisher Custom Mauser .270.....

22" barrel, 13.5" LOP, 7 1/4 lbs. FN action blind magazine Krag trigger guard, bit of engraving on guard with initials WLA for Wm L. Audes, a Texan for whom Fisher made several rifles. Inlaid in gold on barrel J. FISHER GOLDEN.CO.1959 Engine turned bolt and extractor, checkered flat under bolt knob. Redfield Jr. scope mount. Sling swivel eyes. Ebony forend tip. Checkered steel grip cap. Checkered steel oval trap buttplate, nice point pattern checkering about 22lpi. Black streaked Euro walnut, cheekpiece no Monte Carlo. No provision for iron sights. Condition new in and out except for minor handling marks, particularly, a very shallow dent 1 x 1/8" on lower right of butt, another, smaller, on the right forend, you can either ignore or steam out, wood not broken. Although this rifle appears to be in perfect mechanical condition, I have never fired it and there are no warranties of safety or fitness for use. Jerry Fisher is considered by many to be the absolutely best custom rifle maker alive today. His rifles are rarely offered for sale. This is a wonderful example of his work and a classical beauty.

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I let him know I am still interested. After finding out his history with the gun and the builder I don't think he is the kind of guy that is hard up for cash...

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Just like collectable automobiles. Sellers will put out feelers that they are going to sell, collect serious offers just to see what it might be worth. This may be the case here not knowing the seller.

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Just like collectable automobiles. Sellers will put out feelers that they are going to sell, collect serious offers just to see what it might be worth. This may be the case here not knowing the seller.

 

 

Could be...but I checked the guy out before I contacted him. He participates in forums similar to this and sells on the public auction sites occasionally. I didn't see a single red flag at all, and he has recieved all good feedback. In fact he seemed to be a regular old guy with a propensity to trading in Savage 99's....LOL

 

JC

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The long and short of it is, when you see a good deal you must act, quickly. If you are unsure what you are looking at then you must do the prudent thing and research. However, in doing so, you run the risk of losing the item to someone else. Better that than pay too much for something.

 

Another similar will surface.

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Better that than pay too much for something.....Another similar will surface.

 

Nothing could be truer ZLR. I have been extremely luck to pick up some nice pieces with the approach I have been taking. In the end the only way to lose out is by paying too much for something that you really don't need. As long as you manage to pay a fair price for goods you can always resell them if need be and start over again...

 

More importantly, there will always be another "deal" right around the next corner waiting for you/me/us. In fact, I already have my eye on another nice custom gun, this one based on a commercial sako action, also built in the late 50's, (the stockmaker is best known for his customer Mausers). Most of my interest lies in nice classic custom stocks and this one no exception. While the gun does need to be refurbished all around I think it would make a nice project and just might fit my bill...

 

As always, thanks for your help and input guys..

 

JC

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