FC Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 If there were a lot of Mohammed contests we could flush the covers out and send them to paradise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Hess Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 As mentioned in the other thread, I think it's kinda like hunting in a baited field. Is that legal? It looks like they had dozens of armed guards (PoPo on private duty) just waiting to see who would show up and try to shoot the place up. Given the success of the tactic, I would not be the least surprised if it was banned by the Feds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdm1962 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I guess the rag heads never heard "don't mess with Texas". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Posted May 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm still amazed about a cop with a pistol killing two guys with AKs. I think the Lord had something to do with that outcome, and it wasn't allah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Hess Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 And the sandies were wearing body armor. We don't have the whole story on that, I think. I have also seen mention of other cops with other guns involved. Maybe rifles. Maybe they just picked the first cop to start shooting at them and designate him "hero" so the rest wouldn't take the heat. Dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlunity Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 I could not do it..but I have seen pistol men who could shoot you so fast and with such accuracy that you would be dead before you heard the shot. karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Hess Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Off of CNN http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/05/us/texas-police-shooting-hero/index.html   The event started, by all accounts, without a hitch around 5 p.m. (6 p.m. ET), and for nearly two hours nothing serious happened. Until, that is, about 6:50 p.m., when a dark-colored vehicle pulled into the entrance the Garland officer and school district officer were blocking. "When that car pulled up and stopped, those officers began to exit that vehicle, and two men exited the dark-colored sedan," Harn said. "Both of them had assault rifles, came around the back of the car and started shooting at the police car." According to a law enforcement source close to the investigation, the two men had six guns -- a mix of assault-style semiautomatic rifles and handguns -- that are being traced back to various parts of Arizona. Gunfire reverberated around the complex, from the two gunmen, and the armed officer. A short time later, four members of a nearby SWAT team came in firing their high-powered rifles, according to a source familiar with the officers involved. But by the time they did, the Garland traffic officer was the only one standing. The school district officer had been hit in the leg, according to Harn. And the two attackers were already down on the ground by their car, having been shot by the traffic officer. Within 15 seconds, the chaotic eruption was basically over. Police vet: 'You cannot downplay what he did' How? He had a .45-caliber Glock pistol, a much less powerful weapon than the rifles used by the attackers, who have since been identified by federal law enforcement officials as Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi. "There's no advantage for a handgun over an assault rifle," said Dick Fairburn, a veteran law enforcement officer who is a columnist for PoliceOne.com. "An assault rifle has more distance, more accuracy, more power, more penetration. "You cannot downplay what he did there." Granted, the officer likely had on some sort of protective jacket. But Tom Fuentes, a former FBI assistant director and current CNN contributor, said that the thin Kevlar vests often worn by police would be useless against an assault rifle round that "will go through that like a hot knife through butter." The same can't be said for bullets coming from the officer's pistol: The attackers' body armor likely would have blocked those. Thus, aiming for the suspects' torso -- as officers are trained first to do, since it is their biggest possible target -- is no longer an option. But still, somehow, the traffic officer managed to down both men in seconds. "It speaks to his skill level," Fairburn, who is a firearms trainer for law enforcement, said of the Garland officer. "In terms of weaponry, he was far outgunned. But he was far better trained." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzRednek Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I'm still awaiting details on how the cop defeated the sandmen's body armor. It is my understanding one of the bad guys was hit, down on the ground but reaching into a bag that supposedly contained explosives or more weapons. Another cop, a swat team member armed with a rifle finished him off. If the bad guy was down but still moving it is highly unlikely the first cop got him with a head shot. There is a possibility as in the Colorado theatre shooting. The news media incorrectly identified a tactical vest as body armor.I'm sure it is just a matter of time and the antis will be blaming Arizona and what they perceive as easy access to guns as the cause. Every since Guns N Ammo magazine rated Arizona as the nation's #1 gun friendly state. Bloomberg has put Az on his map. There is currently a petition drive in Az to get mandatory background checks for private sales on the ballot. Same thing Bloomberg's group did in Oregon. Those that don't think it will fly in Az better wake up. Az twice elected Janet Napolitono as Governor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Funny how our beloved Dear Leader hasn't had a thing to say, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlunity Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Now if that had been Christians attacking muslims...I am sure the media and our leader would still be holding a a'national dialogue" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzRednek Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Now if that had been Christians attacking muslims...I am sure the media and our leader would still be holding a a'national dialogue" ..or another beer summit!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FC Posted May 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Yeah, Obama cares nothing about Christians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlunity Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 That is good sailorman. karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlunity Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 So Fc are you out? Are you a PFC as we used to say? karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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