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Hi everyone!

What are your thoughts about using a Yugo 24/47 action to build a 30.06? I know that the 30.06 is a little longer cartridge than the 8x57. What is the accepted way to lengthen the magazine box? Any other pitfalls that I need to know about using this intermediate action would be appreciated. The action is pristine and I would like to use it for a caliber that I don't have! Can you believe that I don't have one of those :lol: (except a Garand) and that doesn't count. Thanks in advance

 

waterdogz

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wdz,

 

The best way to extend a magazine is the method that Zastava does. Cut the very front of the magazine well off, down to the top of the tang. Fashion a new front out of sheet metal that extends out a bit and spot weld or solder it in place. You then have to grind a commensurate amount away at the bottom of the feedramp to match.

 

Isn't really hard to do if you have those skills. If not Mike (z1r here) or Dave at IT&D in Minerva Ohio can do it for you. Isn't real expensive, Dave charges about $30, you'd have to check with Mike on his price.

 

Brad

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filing the front and rear of the magazine box works pretty well, there is a picture somewhere where too much was taken off and there are dents in the front from the bullet tips, I haven't had that problem though. once the magazine is opened up I polished the feed ramp a bit and it was good to go for me.

 

I'm restocking it, but this is the one I originally posted with the cut out stock

(thats saw dust in the scope base)

 

3006m48.jpg

 

never had a problem with any factory ammo

3006m48factoryammo.jpg

 

150 grain seated right under the cannelure

3006.jpg

 

Roy

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The standard for an 06 is 3.36 and the standard mag length is 3.40. You can't open a yugo that far to the front without cutting into the bottom lug seat. IMO to do an 06 in an intermediate the action needs to be opened to the rear which is alot more work. Basically you'll have the same job ahead of you as putting a H+H mag in a standard action. I'd get a standard 98 for the project, even a standard action needs to be opened up some unless you want to short seat your ammo.

-Don

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IMO, it's a waste of time and energy, unless you want to use 110gr RN in your '06. As donmarkey points out, after a lot of work, it's still a marginal fit for the 63mm case and you'll have to limit your loads due to deep bullet seating.

I'm sure you know the 308 based round's a near perfect fit for that action. You'll be much happier being able to seat your bullets out and take advantage of the extra powder space. A 260 Rem or 7mm-08 besides the 308 or even a 6.5x55 would do that action justice. How about a sweet 6.5x284? :D

 

NCsmitty

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Waterdogz,

 

do whatever you feel will work for you, nothing is a waste of time or effort if you want to do it. If you decide to go the 30-06 route take lots of pictures, I 'm starting to think I have a magic M-48 that functions with minimal work and all factory ammo. heres the link to the last argument over this.

 

http://www.sporterizing.com/index.php?showtopic=6553&hl=

 

Roy

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I 'm starting to think I have a magic M-48 that functions with minimal work and all factory ammo.

 

bubbamauser, I don't think anyone is saying it cannot be done. Are you telling us that you can load, a regular 180 grain factory 30'06 Core-lokt in your magazine, without any interference? I for one would like to see that.

 

My point is that in using an intermediate action for 30'06, you have to compromise somewhere. IMO, that action can be put to better use in selecting a cartridge that better fits that length action.

It's along the same lines as today's modern short actions that cripple the larger rounds that they are chambered for because no matter what, the COL has to be maintained because of the short magazines. The powder space is compromised and advantages are lost.

 

I could care less what people do with their milsurp conversions, as we all have our own ideas of what we want. I'm only offering my opinion.

 

Spiris

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bubbamauser, I don't think anyone is saying it cannot be done. Are you telling us that you can load, a regular 180 grain factory 30'06 Core-lokt in your magazine, without any interference? I for one would like to see that.

 

My point is that in using an intermediate action for 30'06, you have to compromise somewhere. IMO, that action can be put to better use in selecting a cartridge that better fits that length action.

It's along the same lines as today's modern short actions that cripple the larger rounds that they are chambered for because no matter what, the COL has to be maintained because of the short magazines. The powder space is compromised and advantages are lost.

 

I could care less what people do with their milsurp conversions, as we all have our own ideas of what we want. I'm only offering my opinion.

 

Spiris

 

 

FYI,

 

Most factory '06 ammo is loaded to no more than 3.230" or so. I once tried about five various factory loads ranging from 168 gn target loads to 180 gn spitzers and all fit in the issue magazine. That said, there are some factory lads I'm sure which won't fit and should one decide to go this route just know in advance that you may be faced with choosing factory loads that will fit the magazine or handload to the appropriate length.

 

My advice for someone wanting to go this route and NOT modify their mag or action is to decide on which loads you will be using and check the mag first. It is a compromise for sure.

 

 

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Well, having described the best method for extending a magazine, for discussion's sake only, I have to throw in with Don and Roy.

 

Intermediate actions are hard to find these days. Why not make it an intermediate round. There is some pretty exciting ones that would be fun to build.

 

If you want a standard length round get a standard length action instead of screwing around with some unnecessary conversion. Standard length actions are as common as dog poop in a kennel.

 

If, however you are itching to do a longer mag or one of the Euros, like an 8x68, then do it on a standard and refer to my previous post.

 

Even for curiosity's sake there is little reason to do an unnecessary conversion when simpler, cheaper alternatives await.

 

My 2 bits worth.

 

Brad

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Wow! You guys get real passionate :lol: Thanks for all of your input. You all make good sense. I do enjoy making things work but there is no real need to reinvent the wheel either. I have 2 24/47's and another VZ-24. My game plan is now to use the VZ for the 06 and one of the 24/47 actions for my 243 Varminteer. I'll save the last one for something that most "normal" people never heard of like a 6.5x284 or ?.

 

-dogz-

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Bob58,

 

You have a good eye, I bought it used but it said golden and the rest was unreadable from being polished. I didn't know it was an '03 it appears to have 2 grooves though

 

Spiris,

 

your right If I don't reload it is a compromise, but a 257 roberts if I don't reload is as big a compromise in other ways, I would need to reload my own 180 but the min oal for almost every other powder and bullet weight will work in the yugo mag without modifications

 

I never loaded corelokt or tried 180's ,I do know from loading data that I can load 180 and keep them to a lenght that fits and get maximum velocity (ref. Modern Reloading) everything I read about this conversion says it is one of the hardest to do and thats in no way true, none of the mechanical explanations put forward in this thread hold water if someone reloads. In my case the intermediate actions are now the cheapest I can find So if some one wants to build what they want on the most inexpensive action still available I will give actual hands on experience as to what is involved. Everything I hear appears to be read from a post and I know there have been plenty of them, I wish I could remember who told me this would work on this board about 4 years ago but I was not the first to do this by any means.

 

my point is some people have a yugo action and a 30-06 barrel and want to know if it will work and yes it will, with not much more work than a standard length (filing the magazine)

 

I appreciate all the advice I get from you guys but I guess we need to agree to disagree on this one.

 

Roy

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Wow! You guys get real passionate :lol: Thanks for all of your input. You all make good sense. I do enjoy making things work but there is no real need to reinvent the wheel either. I have 2 24/47's and another VZ-24. My game plan is now to use the VZ for the 06 and one of the 24/47 actions for my 243 Varminteer. I'll save the last one for something that most "normal" people never heard of like a 6.5x284 or ?.

 

-dogz-

 

Sounds like a good plan.

-Don

 

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