FC, email sent. Gun nutty, that was pretty much what I was thinking. An AK mag shortened to be flush would slick up the bottom metal as long as you could get it to feed. Azredneck, I had heard something along those lines also. That was why I was thinking along the lines of the .35 Remington. Do you think it would be a problem to convert the 8mm to .35 Remington or possibly 7mm Mauser or .257 Roberts? I have an 8mm Carcano with a real bad barrel. Thanks for the replies,Paul P.