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#1 Gun

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Posted 27 June 2015 - 10:37 PM

I have a few rifles I am working on and finishing up. And I cannot help but wonder what I would like to replace a finished project with.

I was thinking about a Mosin Nagant chambered in 405 Winchester.

Any thoughts anyone?



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Posted 28 June 2015 - 02:26 PM

I'm thinking that a 405 Win may be possible, my only concern might be the 2.58" case length in a Mosin magazine.

 

 

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Posted 10 July 2015 - 03:46 PM

Thanks Spiris.

Hmmmm, so I will have to ponder this some more.



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Posted 14 July 2015 - 01:44 PM

Thanks Spiris.

Hmmmm, so I will have to ponder this some more.

Should be fine as a single shot.

 

Look at what you'd need to remove from the receiver to make it work as a repeater (specifically at the bottom guide-rib as it glides through the lower locking-lug raceway). Even if you could modify the magazine, or install a replacement single-column magazine, you're removing a good amount of meat to allow the 405 cartridge to rise. What would the lower locking lug/guide be supported by?

 

Looking at it, I wouldn't attempt to feed a cartridge with a outside neck diameter wider than that raceway.



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Posted 14 July 2015 - 09:11 PM

Thanks fellows!

Well off to the back burner with the Mosin for now then.



#6 drhall762

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:40 AM

Old posting I know. I have a stalking rifle in .405 WCF built around a MN action. It is single shot.



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Posted 20 July 2017 - 01:21 PM

I'll bet it whoops your shoulder pretty good.



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 12:15 AM

I remember something here or another board of a 444 Marlin project in a Mosin Nagant. Can't recall if it was successful or not.

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 07:22 AM

I'll bet it whoops your shoulder pretty good.

Actually not as bad as you might expect. The stock design actually is very good at reducing felt recoil and of course a pad. In fact, the stock is so comfortable to shoot in the bigger bores I used it on the .375 Flanged Magnum project. Also a MN action.

 

Currently I have 3 stalking rifles built on hex receiver MN actions. ALL came from guns that had been chopped up by someone else. I personally do not believe in taking a good military bolt gun and chopping it if it is a serviceable sample or can be restored to one. Just me.

 

The calibers are, .50-110 WCF, .405 WCF and the .375 Flanged Magnum. The last one was done a little differently as it has a solid rear bridge where the split bridge used to be and the bolt handle moved back.

 

If anyone is interested I can post a couple of pictures or at least I think I can.



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 07:28 AM

I remember something here or another board of a 444 Marlin project in a Mosin Nagant. Can't recall if it was successful or not.

 

I would imagine that it would be some work to get it to feed but not as bad as the .45-70 project that was done a while ago. Somewhere I think I still have a link to that blog. A nice conversion for the MN is a simple 9.3x54R or maybe that is 9.3x53R, I never remember. It is a standard hunting round in Finland or at least was.



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 07:46 AM

The Finns certainly know their Mosin's.  I mean, why bother making your own receivers when all you have to do is go kill some Russians and take theirs? 


There was an article in a recent Firearms News (ex-SGN) on a Mannlicher in that 9.3x50-something Rimmed.  Don't remember the maker.  I think it was CZ.  Anyway, that thing shot really well, according to the article.  Like MOA or better, if I recall. 



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 06:02 PM

Would love to see the solid rear bridge conversion.

Actually not as bad as you might expect. The stock design actually is very good at reducing felt recoil and of course a pad. In fact, the stock is so comfortable to shoot in the bigger bores I used it on the .375 Flanged Magnum project. Also a MN action.

 

Currently I have 3 stalking rifles built on hex receiver MN actions. ALL came from guns that had been chopped up by someone else. I personally do not believe in taking a good military bolt gun and chopping it if it is a serviceable sample or can be restored to one. Just me.

 

The calibers are, .50-110 WCF, .405 WCF and the .375 Flanged Magnum. The last one was done a little differently as it has a solid rear bridge where the split bridge used to be and the bolt handle moved back.

 

If anyone is interested I can post a couple of pictures or at least I think I can.



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 06:56 PM

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This is the finished rear bridge. Directly behind it is the cut for the moved bolt handle. The bridge make mounting a scope on a MN as easy as any Remington or Winchester.



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Posted 21 July 2017 - 08:21 PM

Nice work on the bridge.  As a minor criticism, and it is certainly better than I could do but it's easy to throw stones, had it been the same hex shape as the rest of the receiver, it would have looked "factory."  You probably wouldn't notice it with a scope on top. 

 

SGN had an article a couple years ago now on sporterizing the MN's.  Kind of a silk purse from a sow's ear thing.  It was a good read.



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Posted 22 July 2017 - 05:39 AM

That was thought of but with the design of the bolt it just seemed to leave the sides of the bridge a little thin.

 

The smith that did this is a real wizard with MN. Very strong actions to build on.



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Posted 22 July 2017 - 08:01 AM

I'm all about Function over Fashion.  Got pics of the completed rifle?



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Posted 22 July 2017 - 01:03 PM

Can't find the picture of the .375 finished but the first pic is before stock and metal finishing. The second is the .405 and the third is the .50-110. The same applies to the third pic, taken before stock and metal work finished.
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Posted 22 July 2017 - 01:55 PM

In the SGN article, he kept the magazine, but eliminated the part that hangs under the stock for a smooth look.  I take it those are single shots.  50-110.  You hunt buffalo or something?  That should roll them.



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Posted 22 July 2017 - 05:27 PM

The .50-110 is for rabbits and squirrels.  :D 






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