American Brand Power Is Worthless And Dangerous.
Posted 19 January 2007 - 09:02 PM
I have a Remington 1858 New Army pistol with GOEX black powder, 24 grains will send a .44 cal 454 target ball down range and in the black of a rifle target at 25 yards.
With American Brand powder, 30 grain tube on the flask, 2 out of 12 balls did not clear the barrel:
One coursed the pistol to jam. By sticking between the end of the cylinder and the lip of the chamber. I pushed the ball back into the cylinder, took off the nipple and poured in some of this "powder" and fired the ball.
The second "incident" was worse.
The ball cleared the chamber but stooped about an inch from the muzzle.
It was the fourth shot in the cylinder, had I not been trained to listen when I shoot, I could have easily fired another cylinder into a blocked bore...NOT GOOD.
The powder also lacked consistency.
I use a flask to throw my charge so you would expect a similar result with each charge?
Nope, some cylinders went boom some went pop.
Save your money and perhaps your hand. Leave the "American brand powder" in the store.
Posted 19 January 2007 - 10:09 PM
Posted 20 January 2007 - 07:14 AM
"American Brand power" is a BP substitute.
Here in the PRC GOEX is very hard to find, I don't know why as all the dealers I asked tell me it is still legal to sell. If I cannot find any at the gunshow next month or if " PyrodexP" does not pan out, I am going to pay the Haz-mat fee and order some GOEX over the net.
Posted 20 January 2007 - 02:06 PM
We got 10 inchs of new snow last night I need to go deal with, thank God for $ wheel drive and 2 teen age sons. best of luck! Steve
Posted 20 January 2007 - 06:41 PM
I'm not sure if the BP substitutes have the same shelf life, but I can say for sure that Goex is kinda like the Energizer bunny.
Posted 20 January 2007 - 08:56 PM
It sounds like your "American" powder must be of the new generation. Hopefully "no child left behind" will fix this. And hopefully the remaining powder you have on will be useful as fertilizer.
I've used both Pyrodex and the Holy Black in my revolvers. They both work fine. I like the real stuff because I can use it in Sparky (my fliintlock) too. Sparky hates Pyrodex.
Real blackpowder is (it seems to me) more versatile than Pyrodex and so it seems to me that its the stuff to have on hand. Plus, you never know when something around the house will need to be blown up, and you're going to be scrathing you head about how to get the job done with Pyrodex.
Posted 20 January 2007 - 09:28 PM
That is something that is not done much anymore, but it is a part of American history. I guess the migration of farm boys to the cities had something to do with it, that and the black eye that the ATFE casts upon anyone using black powder (or any kind of powder).
Another part of Americana gone.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 02:48 AM
Posted 21 January 2007 - 05:58 AM
Posted 21 January 2007 - 09:04 AM
You can order an entire case of Goex online. That's how I did it. You will have a hard time ordering locally. Just use a search engine and compare prices. Yup, they will deliver to your door.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 04:18 PM
The Hippy wants to know what part of Hawaii you headed for?
For some reason that state fascinates the ladies.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 07:39 PM
There would be contests to see who could launch one the highest. I have heard that the noise from one going off was pretty loud, I wonder if they wore ear protectors? Likely not, and thus the cause of hearing loss just as I am experiencing now.
Blowing the anvil on New Years Eve and turning over outhouses on Halloween was a big thing years ago.
Posted 21 January 2007 - 10:02 PM
Fritz, I never heard of blowing an anvil. What is it?
Posted 21 January 2007 - 10:42 PM
From what I gather, blowing an anvil involves placing black powder under it and seeing how high and far it will go. I once thought that you placed the powder in a recess of the anvil, but that would just make noise. I believe the idea was to launch that heavy metal into the air. Being solid iron, it should withstand quite a bit of powder.
I think the trick was to place the powder in just the right place to gain the most altitude. I'm sure there were some who were more proficient in this than others. Can you imagine the noise that a big charge of black powder would make?
That's why it was reserved for New Year's Eve.
At least that's my take on it. Like Jerry, I was too young to remember just how the old-timers did it. You don't see many real anvils anymore, those vises with an anvil are not anything like a real old anvil.
Posted 22 January 2007 - 03:44 AM
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