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#1 tinkerfive

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 08:35 PM

I realize that this is a long shot.
I thought that this would be the place to put this.

I talked to a local fellow today that I thought that I'd try to help if I can.
He has a 1914 256 Newton ( Obendorf ) that is missing the bolt.

He is motivated to complete this rifle . If anyone knows of a bolt source or a parts gun
please pass it along.

Thanks
Tinker :)

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 11:21 PM

Is this a Mauser in 256 Newton caliber?

#3 tinkerfive

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 04:33 PM

Is this a Mauser in 256 Newton caliber?


No! :( That would have been all too easy. :angry:
This is the 7 lock lug bolt.
I'll bet it is a variant based on a 98 action.
As I understand Mr. Newton spent time in Europe in 1914.
I have my doubts that the 1916 version made here in the U.S.
after his return would work.

From the pictures it does look very Mauser like.
I wonder if the dimensions would be such that a clever smith could
start with a 98 bolt then anneal and rework then retreat the bolt.

Maybe we'll have someone who truly knows about these rifles take note of this posting.

Tinker

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Posted 07 April 2010 - 04:55 PM

I read an article on them last night.
Newton was started in 1914 in Buffalo NY
There was no mention in the article (which lists the total number built) of newton rifles being made anywhere but in Buffalo.
Also Germany was heavily involve at war in 1914. I would think that Oberndorf would have been geared towards the war effort.

Your milage may vary!

Edit: Info gleaned from Bolt Action Rifles (4th Edition)
*Newton Arms Company was established in 1914.
*Production started in 1917.
*It wasn't until 1918 the first all Newton rifles were shipped (Newton rifle with a Newton action)
*By April of 1918 2400 Newton rifles had been made but the firm was in receivership buy then.
* At that time there was enough parts on hand to build another 1200 rifles plus 400 more built with rejected parts.
*About 4000 thousand rifles total.

After losing the company Charles Newton designed a new rifle in 1921 called the Buffalo Newton. http://books.google.... Newton&f=false

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 08:25 AM

good luck on finding a replacement bolt. i'm looking for an extractor right now. parts do come up on gunbroker and ebay but they are few and far between. you cant convert a mauser bolt but you might be able to have a new one machined from 4140 but it would end up costing a lot of money.

occasionaly a complete rifle will come up that has been rebarreled to 30-06 or 300 win mag & they usually sell for under $1000.your best bet will be to find one of these for a replacement bolt then part the rest of it out

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 11:58 AM

I just saw a auction on GB a few days ago that may be what your looking for. It was a stripped bolt and reciever, almost looks like a Mauser 66 and a Montana action cross. It had the 7 locking lugs, but the seller thought that it may be a sako production. Like Jim said, newton's don't come up too often, good luck. :(

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 06:51 PM

I just saw a auction on GB a few days ago that may be what your looking for. It was a stripped bolt and reciever, almost looks like a Mauser 66 and a Montana action cross. It had the 7 locking lugs, but the seller thought that it may be a sako production. Like Jim said, newton's don't come up too often, good luck. :(

Brenden


Original Newton bolts appear to have a cocking knob like a Springfield '03.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:34 PM

Yuo'll probably never see one for less than this
http://www.auctionar...56453&oh=216543




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