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Yes, the Carcano used to be quite plentiful. That's how Oswald got his--cheap. I have read reports that he bought it from Klein's for about 15 or 20 dollars, along with a scope. That was a year or so before I began my military surplus frenzy. That was a time of the Horn of Plenty, as pertains to surplus rifles and pistols. I remember seeing adds for Webley revolvers in Outdoor Life magazine, going for around 20 bucks or less. As a youngster I was tempted to buy one. And why not, there were no age restrictions in those days. Oh, maybe you were supposed to be 18 but nobody required proof. And yet, we were safer then than now. All except for JFK, that is. fritz

Jerry, Do you really believe that it was the carcano that did it? Maybe so, but there had to be a backup rifle. Remember the fellow on the knoll, he had a better shot angle. But that is all history now, and the carcano in question is not for sale. The little pistol that did in Lee Harvey Oswald did sell. It was returned to the family (they don't do that nowadays). At least we know who shot Lee. It has been so long, I have forgotten who shot JR. Dallas has a legacy all it's own. Unless you are a Texan, it may be hard to comprehend the way the Dallas police force does things. Even to this day. BTW, I have one of those carcanos that I did a chop job on in the late 60s, and it was a poor performer (to say the least). It resides in an unlocked building along with some of my other items that are going to have to be disposed of someday. But it's the only firearm in that building, the rest of the junk is just as worthless. If you have an unaltered one, keep it so. Someone may want, someday, the rifle that did in a president. But don't lie. fritz

I liked the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving special, myself. But then I am 63 years of age, and out of touch with the "now generation". Tomorrow is the day, that many years ago, my uncles and cousins would come down from the big city to our farm. My mom always prepared the big meal, and it was always better and more special to have it on the farm. My cousins were all grads from UT, and that was always the day that they played the Aggies. I was just a kid yet. So I kept my mouth shut during the game. The Longhorns usually won in those days, while we watched on B&W television. I only found out what burnt orange looked like when they invented color tv. At a family reunion a few years ago, after a few (quite a few) drinks, I told my cousins that I had a confession to make. While you all were cheering for the Longhorns, I was hoping for an Aggie victory. It must have been a bitter pill for them, but then they usually won. This year they play the day after Thanksgiving, at Austin. I put my son through UT, after he rejected the Aggies. I will be cheering for the Longhorns this year, albeit at home without the cousins. We had plans to go to Houston to be with one of the cousins, but today my brother-in-law fell and broke his hip. You all have a great one. It's a day to be thankful for all we have, and what we have had. fritz

Man, you fellows in Kali are in a bind. You cannot find any more black powder to stoke your assault pistols. Karl, I know you are a teacher of history. But have you studied chemistry? That stuff can be made, you know. Hell, beer and wine can be made (and were very frequently during prohibition). But before you embark on the process of making some of it, no matter how small, I would consult your local recently elected Speaker of the House. Nancy should be able to advise you on the legalities of it. Forget the BATFE, she will now set the rules. You didn't vote for her, did you? Nahhh. Just kidding. But that don't aleviate your problem of finding black powder for sporting use. So I must offer my hope that your state will someday either secede (YES!) from the Union, or become part of the real USA. sincerest wishes, fritz

"A large Trans-Modal park is being talked about for the Bowling Green, KY area. I'm wondering if this is part of the bigger picture too." Well, it's quite a ways from the main project (which is to link Canada with Mexico). But the entire vision (if we can call it that) is to link EVERYBODY with Mexico. One way or the other, by hook or crook. Well, I have had my share of the crooks involved with this fiasco. I am ready for ONE single elected politician to stand up for what this country wants, and not just what they want. I may have to wait awhile. And I am not getting any younger. I believe the reason why Perry got reelected was not just because of the few misguided (albeit idealistic and well meaning) voters who voted independent. I believe some voted for him because they were not land owners in the state of Texas. And the TTC was not THEIR problem. Well, they got their man. The man who slithered into the office of Governor on the coattails of GW. Bush was an excellent governor, too bad he lost the ability to do what he did in Texas. And that was to bring both parties into a single agreement on a bill. But I must interject here that Bob Bullock was the real one that brought that about. Well, Bob Bullock is gone now. It is up to GW Bush to do it all himself now. And we have all seen the way he went about it. Maybe now with the House and Senate on the other side, he will remember what he was able to accomplish in Texas. Then again, maybe not. The choice is his. The ball is in his court (so to speak). Let's hope he don't drop the ball in the fourth quarter. Because then, the game is over. fritz

And all this time folks were blaming democrats for wanting to get more voters, and all the bad things in this country. It seems that there are a lot of politicians after the same thing. Let us not forget GW's fellow partner in crime, namely Rick Perry. If Perry had been defeated, this corridor would be dead in the water (at least in Texas). And all three of his opponents were on record as doing so. So, how did Rick get reelected? Simply because the three clowns running against him split up the vote just enough to get him in. He won with only 40% of the vote. Giving his closest rival, Chris Bell, the votes of just one of the three, would have defeated him. My argument with the TTC has always been with the Texas governor and his closed doors approach to putting it in place. Now it appears that the President wanted it even more than Perry. Birds of a feather flock together. fritz

I think the question of whether the draft will be reinstated (in my lifetime) has been adequately answered, so I will add no more. But that is still an interesting link, this time I got an ad for "Dynamic Korea". Then an ad from a company wanting to loan me money. Boy, they really have it staged right---start off with patronizing Exxon/Mobil and end up borrowing money from the other sponsors. As the Guiness beer commercial goes----"Brilliant!" fritz

Hmmm, interesting link. The most interesting is that every time you hit on it, you get a different advertisement. The first time I hit it, it was Exxon/Mobil. Well, in these hard times I guess you take the money from whoever has the most of it. And Exxon/Mobil certainly has the most money. As to the point of Rep. Rangel's legislation, it has about the same chance as a snowball in hell. fritz

"I'm tired of deleting spam, so I have to go to registered posts only." It was inevitable. Tony should not have to spend the time to delete the spam that comes across on an unregistered forum. What I would like to see happen though, is that our server would not sometimes not recognize the registered ones here. I know it ain't just me, because I have seen Karl post as a guest also. But being required to register is needed, even if we have to sign in again occasionally. It comes down to cookies being lost. And it must not just be my pc that looses them now and then. A small price to pay for stopping spam. BTW, even at 63 years of age, I don't need those penis enlargement drugs. I stopped thinking about that sort of thing years ago. fritz

Well, California AKs are going up, but Century does not wish to be stuck with a lot of the other high-cap guns and mags. It's only good business---- Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:39 AM To: 'Sales List' Subject: Updated Pricing RI1170N AES-10 Hi-Cap was $519.87 each, now $399.87 each RI1233X M72 Heavy BBL was $899.87 each, now $699.87 each fritz

"The increase in total munitions dropped has also been substantial. This year in Afghanistan, American aircraft have dropped 987 bombs and fired more than 146,000 cannon rounds and bullets in strafing runs, more than was expended in both categories from the beginning of the American-led invasion in 2001 through 2004, the Air Force said. During those years, a total of 848 bombs and just over 119,000 bullets were used by aircraft, according to Air Force figures." Isn't it amazing how we can keep track of all the bombs we drop, but cannot account for even a small amount of illegals who are in this country. Tells me where our prioroties lie. fritz

OK, time for a bit of humor (Texas style)---- A TEXAS AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER You gotta love this one! Dallas ATC: "Tower to Saudi Air 911--You are cleared to land eastbound on runway 9R." Saudi Air: "Thank you Dallas ATC. Acknowledge cleared to land on infidel's runway 9R --Allah be Praised !!" Dallas ATC: "Tower to Iran Air 711--You are cleared to land westbound on runway 9R." Iran Air: "Thank you Dallas ATC. We are cleared to land on infidel's runway 9R.- -Allah is Great !!" Pause: Static............. Saudi Air: "DALLAS ATC ! DALLAS ATC!!!" Dallas ATC: "Go ahead Saudi Air 911?" Saudi Air: "YOU HAVE CLEARED BOTH OUR AIRCRAFT FOR THE SAME RUNWAY GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS !!! WE ARE ON A COLLISION COURSE !!! INSTRUCTIONS PLEASE!!!" Dallas ATC: "Well bless your hearts. Y'all be careful now and tell Allah 'hey' for us, ya hear? " fritz

I'll try to do better in the future. But I have come to be critical of everything I read, and about half of what I see. fritz

It got up to about 89 today here in S. Texas, but they say we have a cold front coming. It may be down to 49 on thursday before warming to 70 in the afternoon. I can live with the cold mornings, as long as it warms up in the afternoon. What we need here is rain. If we could get snow on Christmas eve like we did 2 years ago, it would erase a lot of the memories we have of the drought this summer. That stuff melts and makes water. Let it snow, let it snow. fritz

" don't suppose you could round them up and sell them at the auction?" That might be considered rustling. Anyway, the sheriff and the DPS did get them into a pasture for Saturday night. But one of them got back out and was hit on a curve just after dark on Sunday. Black cows are hard to see at night. I'm sure they found out who owned the cow, I have a pretty good idea. But one has to be careful about putting stray cows in the wrong guy's pasture. I don't know the owner, but he just bought the land where they got out and put some new cows in the pasture. A new cow will always look for a way back where it came from. And if I'm correct, he was what they call a weekend rancher. He probably had no business owning cows in the first place. They are hard enough to tend to when you live on the place. The highway dept. came out and buried the carcass in the ditch this morning. It was a big cow, I hate to see the driver's car. He was able to drive it for a few miles, but pulled over because he was in such pain. He already had back problems, and is an older fellow. fritz

Well, the cow is dead and the fellow who hit it is suffering serious back injuries. It happened tonight near my pasture. I lost a lot of time yesterday because people were calling me about some black cows on the road. I drove the entire area and never saw any cows on the road. But still the phone calls came, practically accusing me of being the owner (because I run black cows). I now know how the black people feel when someone is killed by a black man, they get suspected because they are black. If I could, I would paint all my cows purple, pink, or whatever else nobody does. That way, there is no doubt. Anyway, one of the cows in question was back on the road tonight and got hit by an elderly man. He suffered back injuries. I don't think the sheriff ever found out who owned the cows yesterday, but I bet he will now. There will probably be a lawsuit. At least it wasn't mine. I finally found the herd of about 6 cows yesterday and called the sheriff and told him "They ain't mine". They put them in a neighbor's pasture for the night (saturday night with all the dance crowd on the road). Not his cows, but just to get them off the road. Today, one of them must have crawled the fence again, and now there is real schitt. Me and mrs fritz spent half the day yesterday telling callers, "They ain't mine". I was busy loading hay for a buyer, and went through the best part of a case of beer before it was over. Even mrs fritz was about to have one (beer). I had already drank them all, but there was a bottle of wine in the fridge. Not everybody brands their cattle here, and especially not calves, there were several calves with the cows. But they were crossbred calves, mine are all black. Black brangus, the cattleman's choice. Hope I am not called as a witness to the trial. I still have things to do without playing referee to somebody's poor management of his herd. fritz

"Um, fritz. The last doctors in our country who saw endless numbers of gunshot wounds have all retired now after their service in WWII and Korea " Sorry, I thought those fellow doktors listed on that long list were current practicing physicians. Guess they were all military doktors. My mistake. Ask the doctors in the ER of Houston (the most dangerous city in the US) and the doctors in ERs around the country where the gunshot wounds they treat happened. It wasn't war casualities (unless you call the streets of the United States a war zone.) Come to think of it, they are. And I believe you misunderstood the post I made. But that's understandable, it was a rather long dissertation I was looking at. I probably misunderstood it. My mistake. fritz

You got a bad one. fritz

And there are other lower pressure rounds than the 8x57 available for the Gew 98 and the remaining threads would be fine if you handload to lower pressures. Hell, you can buy cheap Mossbergs that are safe for higher pressure rounds at Academy Sports. They have one for less than $300 that has been tested by a gun magazine and rated as a best buy. But it ain't a mauser, and I agree with the others that to build your own you need to start with the best. And that ain't the weakened Turked Gew 98s. fritz

"I would think that the banned will be in place forever. " Sadly, that may be true. It is easier to ban something than to unban it. But as prohibition banned sales of alcohol, they still flourished. It just went behind closed doors. Going behind closed doors to do business has never been a good thing for those who like to keep freedom open to all. Those who seek freedom will always find a way to survive. We may have less guns sold on the open market (under a ban), but there will be guns sold behind closed doors. Going behind closed doors to do business will happen. History proves it. fritz

It was a nice piece of work, but man I could have plowed 40 acres before I read it all. Doctors have always been against guns. But in rural areas, or when the doktor from the big city is a hunter, he does not sign a petition against guns. He may be a surgeon, but he don't wanna cut his own throat. Besides, gunshot wounds keep a lot of doktors in business. Kinda morbid thought, but true non the less. If I was a doktor and saw the endless flow of victims of gunshots coming to the ER, I would be against guns also. Maybe. fritz

Jerry, You nailed it! 73 percent of Hispanics voted for the Democratic party on Tuesday, while only 26 percent voted for Republican candidates. In the 2004 presidential elections, 55 percent of Hispanics voted Democratic and about 42 percent voted Republican. We have to now realize that when they said "Today we march, tomorrow we vote" was true. But as Tony and others have pointed out, it was an election that was blown by the Republicans. Folks can argue (and throw stones) all they want--it ain't going to change nothing. Like it or not, we let them have it. It was not the way it was in the Texas war for independence, when we told them to COME & TAKE IT (if they dared). fritz

"Some dude said come on,for 2,500 bucks I could hunt for 2 days and to bring all camping equipment,nothing furnished.I believe in what the NRA stands for,but not the way they operate.Jerry" That is too damned much to pay, especially when I have a friend whose son manages a 3,000 acre ranch here and has started an outfitting company (R&R Outfitters). He has 6 hunters coming this weekend from Florida. He charges $1500 for a managed hunt, $800 for a cull buck or doe, and has turkey and hog hunts also. He provides everything, and I mean everything. Camphouse, barbecue meals, all the booze they can drink, anything they need. And it is for three days. 3,000 acres all to themselves for three days. Still too much money for me to afford, but I'm sure the Florida hunters will be pleased with the weekend hunt. There are a lot of big deer on that ranch. There is more money to be made on hunters than cattle. fritz

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Some good points brought up here. I don't know when gun control will again get the front burner, but I'm sure it will be on the back burner. Right now, and the results of the election seem to underscore it, it is the war in Iraq that is going to be on the front burner. I missed the latest news, did Rummy resign? That didn't take long. We can hope and pray that the liberals will not get to gun control for a bit. In the meantime, there is still time to buy those semi-autos. I know I did when Clinton got elected. The last I heard was that the senate was coming down to Virginia, and even then it may be a recount. We may not know that result for some time. Update: Virginia went to the democratics. One question remains----did Rummy resign or was he fired? fritz