karlunity Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Fellas. I got an 1860 colt for Christmas and so I took it and the 1851 navy to the range. Both are in .44 and I was using Graff and son powder and .454 balls. At 10 feet the groups were touching holes. The 1851, which seems to fit and feel a bit better, had the best groups. The 1860, look neater and got better as it was 'shot-in". At 25 meters most of the balls were on the paper from both pistols, but not good groups. This was my fault, not the revolvers. The BP revolvers have little recoil and shoot as accurately as newer arms although you do get many more misfires. On the whole, it was a very nice shoot. Karl I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzRednek Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 The BP revolvers have little recoil and shoot as accurately as newer arms although you do get many more misfires. Something isn't right if you're experiencing allot of mis-fires. Shouldn't really have any beyond the fouling shots. Is the Graff & Son powder a substitute like Pyrodex?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1r Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Something isn't right if you're experiencing allot of mis-fires. Shouldn't really have any beyond the fouling shots. Is the Graff & Son powder a substitute like Pyrodex?? I agree, other than those caps I popped to clear the nipples I've never had a misfire. While some instructions say to use a certain size cap you may find that in reality another size fits better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlunity Posted December 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 I worded this incorrectly. What I meant to write was that several times the caps had to be hit on the second go round before they went off. Graff and son IS black powder. Take care Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 The hammer spring might be a bit weak. What brand are they? I'm pretty stuck on Uberti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzRednek Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 I'd suspect the caps aren't just right. If they are not on all the way, the first hammer strike is cushioned. There are variations in size between manufactures, both nipples and caps. Try the next size up, if they fit loose pinch them. I have a rifle with the same problem, the stainless replacement nipple said # 10. With #10's it will usually take two hammer blows before it fires. The same caps work first and every time with the OEM nipple. I can't recall the number sized cap used with the stainless nipple but another shooter gave me a few larger caps that fit loose. I pinch them, shove then down on the nipple, they hold tight and shot every time. Possibly it is as simple as switching brands of caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzRednek Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 If you're a bullet caster try some of the Lee conical slugs, improved the accuracy on my son's Remmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Karl,I've always had my best results with those primer caps in the red can with the name you can't say.Rottenweiller imahammerstammer.I was told years ago they were hotter than U.S. made caps and do seem to be.I also used HotShot nipples on my rifles until the 209 primer adapters came out.How much powder are you loading in the .44's? Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlunity Posted December 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Thanks Jerry. I have a tin of the Red caps somewhere. As to powder, about 24 grains. Take care karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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