Doble Troble

Bob, Sam seems committed to the 8mm. If you go with the 8x57 let me know...I don't think there's anything wrong with this Turk barrel, but it is a Turk barrel. You can't beat Swedish steel.

Betcha he meant 1/2" of travel along the lenth of the barrel. The daring amateur could heat it up cherry red and drive it where he wanted it. But those damn things are so expensive that it almost takes the fun out of it

Bob, Thanks a bunch. I'll talk to Sam (the youngster) and see how the potential of a 270 flies. I'm trying very hard to make recommendations and not decisions - I figure the more he decides the more vested he'll be in the project and the more he'll learn. Yes, I'm in East Carolina - Greenville. I'm acutally starting to like it here even with the humidity. Thanks for the shortening advice too. I don't *think* there's anything wrong with the original chamber. I just *assumed* that if we took it back a bit and cut a fresh chamber that it might be *better*. You know what happens when you assume though. I suppose there might be an advantage to putting the set screw holes pointing down, and the experience of cutting a chamber could have educational value.

Hey guys, long time no post. I'm still kicking. I just haven't been doing much sporterizing. That's changing. A friend's son (a big 13 y/o) has developed an interest in building a Mauser. He struggled between 6.5 x 55 and stock 8 mm, but decided on the 8 mm. I think it was a fine choice, but I imagine we're going to start with some light loads. So he's building it on a Turk. We're going to cut down the stock barrel to 24" and put it in a sporter stock. We're going to rechamber it which leads to a question: how much should we face off the barrel to be sure the old chamber is cleared out? I hope everyone's been doing well, and that we haven't lost anyone else recently. DT

I suggest that Israel should keep to the high road and continue to use their precision weapons. What might be interesting is for them to publish a list of Hamas targets that they will hit - one for each indiscriminate rocket launch. They could also publish a list of names of Hamas leadership. For each innocent Israeli that is killed by rocket attacks, they go down the Hamas list and issue a death warrant. Once Mossad completes a few hits, I bet the rockets stop.

I tried to buy 22s at WalMart here in Greenville NC last night. They didn't have one box. Not one round. I asked why they were out. The reply was, "Obama". The clerk said that people are afraid that we'll be allowed to keep our guns as promised but not ammunition. She also said that the regional distribution center was out too, and didn't know when they might get some. I've only got a few rounds left for squirrel season. Maybe I can prep some mild 308 cast loads. This really is amazing.

Thanks ST!

Very nice! Excellent wood and metal finish. Find your local Garand match and go shoot it! Garand matches are loads of fun and filled with knowledgable but laid-back guys. I bet your Garand will group very well.

Everyone I know whoo has one loves it. They're supposed to shoot really fast and flat with little buck. Reliability is legendary, but I've seen one hiccup during a pistol match. It seems like SOG had them advertised for ~$700 half a year ago or so. It might be worth giving them a call.

Nice! I need a dog collar sling for my M38 - any recommendations? Why are the triggers in different places - why is the trigger on the middle rifle further back? None of them look cocked. Are there differences in the quality of the triggers? I really don't have a problem with the triggers on the two Mosins I have. They're much better than my Win 94 and a light year from the trigger on my Stevens 87 .22LR - and I still love the 94 and 87.

Nice fix & fab, tinker. I usually *try* to fix this type of thing, but the double failure can be a real bear. Sounds like you've got it running for several more years.

Merry Christmas! I've been out of commission for awhile, but am getting back. Got a couple squirrels in the backyard and so squirrel tacos are on the menu! Peace to all (except those who mean innocents harm). DT

Boy, that's a good quiz and an excellent project. The fact that elected officials score significantly lower than the general population is frightening, and might explain the bailouts. I missed the Lincoln-Douglas debate question (thought it was about leaving the union, but remember now that it was about slavery spreading into the new territories - problems with Kansas and Mizzou if memory serves from 6th grade) and the Puritan question (of course all of humanity is sinful - why the hell does that need stressing). I think that this isn't part of college curriculum because IT SHOULD BE BEATEN IN BEFORE HIGH SCHOOL. Colleges have assumed that it was and is, but this is clearly no longer true. How much remediation can be done in colleges? High school graduates can't write, do math or think their way out of a paper bag, much less cook their own food (or *gasp* kill and dress it themselves), fix things that break (just buy another) or consistently tell the truth (lighten up). If the economy tanks, as it probably should, there will be much less room for those "who can't". Maybe this is what our country needs.

Hear, hear, Karl. I don't know what Powell is up to, but I do know it's not good. It's clear to any rational American that Obama wants to limit freedom. Powell must still be pissed-off about something - REALLY pissed-off.

It's at least interesting, and you're doing SOMETHING (which is more than most critics do).

Tom, I'll second the recommendation to work with Z on this. But its clear from your posts that you understand a lot of what you're trying to do. I dare say MORE than many "gunsmiths". I found this site after having become frustrated at having real "gunsmiths" only make problems worse. Now I'm the offender, and occaisionally I manage to get things right. Don't send your work to just anyone. Trust me, you can do it better than most. Find someone you can trust. Z1R is one of those people. I suggest that you are too. Start working on your own capability, maybe for your next project. Z and everyone here will help you. It's important for America that we renew our status as a country that really "can do" things ourselves. This notion of a "service" economy is CRAP. We need to be a nation of DOERS. PS the 6.5 x 55 is your best choice (if you don't decide on a 338-06 or 35 Whelen, actually your 30-06 is all you really need anyway, so the obvious choice is 6.5 x 55).

I see the NRA as kind-of like McCain. Neither really gets me excited, but they're the best option available, and if we don't support them, our way of life becomes increasingly tenuous. I think we should all be supportive members, but also shouldn't hesitate to tell them what we think they should do to improve themselves. I'm also a member of a local second ammendment support organization here in NC - Grass roots North Carolina. This small organization without a big budget has done more in our state to prevent bad gun laws and support concealed carry than has the NRA. I think the NRA focuses too much on sporting, and not enough on the significance of the second amendment. What part of "shall not be infringed" doesn't any American understand? LC- nice pic .

Thanks for the reports, guys. Glad no lives and only tree limbs lost.

Thanks, Spiris. CMP is selling these too at about the same price. There's going to be an EIC match at camp Butner next month. A friend and I are thinking about trying a leg match. Have you done one of these? The CMP has the Eastern games there in May too.

Go to the grocery store and find a package of copper Chore Boy scrubber pads. The pad is held together by a little ring that is easy to fine. Cut the ring with dykes (or hire Rosie O'Donell to take care of it) and start unraveling like a sweater. Get an old, worn-out brush that you don't use any more, screw it on a cleaning rod, and start turning about 6" of the unraveled Chore Boy copper wire fiber onto it. It's kind-of like tying a fly (if you've done that sort of thing - I haven't since I left the Northwest). Dunk your brush/copper wrap in your solvent of choice and start scrubbing. This will illustrate why its important to get all the copper out of a barrel before you start shooting lead - copper is like a lead magnet. The Chore Boy fiber will physically remove lead fouling as fast as anything short of heating up your barrell to 700* F.

If you start feeling impatience starting to flow, put it down and find something else to do. Chamber reaming should be done in a Zen-like tranquil state, or you risk chucking it up again in the lathe and cutting a new shoulder. I hope I take my advice next time.

I'll take Govenor hottie as Commander In Chief over BHO and Joe "the peacock" Biden any day. With two years as Govenor she exceeds BHO's executive experience. She's cleaned-out the old-boy system in AK, gave back the bridge to nowhere "if we need a bridge we'll build it ourselves" and is global energy situation savvy. And she's a hottie! What's not to like! I can't wait for her to mop-up what's left of Billary in 2012. She's clearly further along in understanding advantages of the 6.8 SPC than her competition.

If you use a lubrasizer you can always use a flat point punch and a bit of extra effort to flatten the nose. I have that same bullet mold and it aint exactly a spitzer. It has about the same profile as hornady's 30-30 bullet.

Nice! I wonder if there's an easy way to fabricate a trap-door butt plate? Maybe adaping one off a Garand?

cap and ball pistols with cylinders filled with fffg. cram a felt wad home and welcome to a fairly authentic fireworks display!