swamp_thing

Karl, if you get no takers on the power supplies there may be a way you could use them for other computers. As I understand it they are built the same as all others with the exception that the power plug for the motherboard is wired in a different pin configuration. Thus, if you could determine the proper wire configeration for normal, (non proprietary) supplies you could simply rewire the plug. Just thought this might be of interest to you. swamp_thing

Folks, for those of you that are wondering about the time shown for your posts I offer this information. If you have previously set you time zone in the board settings area of my control panel on this site and your time is now off one hour, it is due to the checkmark being in place for daylight savings time. If you wish to correct this, simply go into "my controls" at the top of the page, "board settings" on the left side menu and in the time zone area remove the check mark for daylight savings time. For that matter many of the newer members may not have known that this time zone could be set to reflect their actual time. In this event you may do so by following the above directions and then simply picking the time zone that pertains to your locality. Once you have made the proper settings remember to click on the change my account options button at the bottom of the screen. swamp_thing

Karl, I don't know what you are using for motherboard, but many of the new boards have a setting in bios, under cmos, for cdrom drives seperately in the primary, secondary drive settings. In other words, what I am saying is in addition to user defined, auto, etc is a setting for atapi cdrom drives. Make sure if this is the case that they are set for that. Look that main cmos screen over good, as they have changed somewhat as of late. Hope this helps. Only other thing I can think of is to recheck jumper settings on the drives. swamp thing

Thanks fellas for the kind words. This was one of my earlier projects and I learned much from it. If you notice under the bolt handle you will see where I cut wrong and had to fill in. I haven't done that anymore at least. It was the start of an addiction for me though, and so more have followed. swamp thing

That is actually very common depending on the case manufacturer and I personally prefer them. As z1r said, it is fine to use. I think that the screw holes on the motherboards may in fact be grounding lugs that mate up to the brass risers. I have put many many of these together this way and it is the most solid mounting, thus when plugging in boards such as video cards, sound cards,etc the board is more stable. Don't let the brass worry you karl. swamp thing

Definately one to be proud of. Nice job on the rifle. It may be your first project, but it won't be your last. Once bitten by the sporter bug it is a life long disease. Welcome to the group of the infected souls. swamp thing

Here are a couple of pictures of a KKale model 38 turk that I sporterized and put in a Richards Microfit modern classic stock. I left the finish satin for hunting purposes. It is the original 8mm military barrel shortened to 24". All in all the rifle came out well. My rifles are for the most part done on a very limited budget so they don't have many fancy features, but they serve the purpose well. swamp thing

swamprat, I don't think there were any problems associated with the link in this post by Lazz. I have opened it and I am sure many others have as well with no ill results. While it is possible that a virus could be involved and you may even have one I wouldn't be too quick to blame the new guy. Just don't want to discourage a guy from posting if in fact he was not the cause of a problem. It is possible that the problem is with your provider or that you have opened a mail that contained a problem. Hope you get this resolved soon. Keep us posted as to the outcome and good luck swamprat. swamp thing

Wow, it is great to see all the different responses as to why we do what we do with these old guns. For me it is the need or want to have that special rifle(s) that suits my individual tastes and shootability. Not too many left hand models out there to begin with. Actually though, it is far more than that. There is something very relaxing and rewarding about taking that old rifle and building it into ones own style and then making the stock to accompany it. Once completed there is great pleasure in being able to shoot it and getting very accurate groups from what once was aging and ailing. You might say it is a personal love affair of sorts that brings out the artistic and mechanical abilities that we possess. I find few other things that can turn so many otherwise long winter days into enjoyment. Once completed they give great satisfaction to be able to show others what you have accomplished. I no longer hunt but I do enjoy getting to shoot as well as the countless hours spent making that special rifle. swamp thing

For each of us there are probably many different variations to the answer for this question. They will probably all differ slightly from everyone elses. To sporterize a rifle is to make it your own. We do not want an original, all matching, just as it was dropped by some dead soldier rifle. What we want will vary with each of our taste, and this is precisely what makes them appealing to us. Many times we are asked what we think of a persons ideas on building a sporter rifle. Why is it that many if not most times there are those that try to convince the asking party that they could get one already done cheaper, perhaps even a commercial rifle instead? I don't mean to flame anyone here and have no intentions of doing so. Folks, it goes without saying that if someone wants to build a sporter rifle and do it right the cost will exceed what they could buy a new one for. That is not the point in most instances. We wish to build to have our own personalize rifles, in which we have devoted our blood, sweat, money and skills into. When it is completed we usually have a rifle that many others have contributed thoughts into. For many at least some of the work has been farmed out to a gunsmith somewhere, yet we have done the vast majority of it ourselves. True, we have made mistakes, had to replace a few of the parts that we learned hard lessons on and even lived with some of the not so perfect outcomes. They might not shoot sub moa on the first attempt, or in some cases ever, but they are our own. The greatest part of sporterizing is not cost savings, or quick gratification, but rather the love for the process to begin with. Anyone can buy a new RemWinSavage at the local gun store, but is there heart and soul in it? Lets try to be careful so as to not come off sounding like we don't support sporterizing one's own rifles here. While I have nothing against warning one as to the potential costs and safety of such, we are here to help each other and should do so. Again, this is not a flame on anyone here, as I consider this site and the people here to be of the greatest around. I just don't want to come off as discouraging ones dreams and wishes. swamp thing

Littlecanoe, I have read your post and went back and read your original post on this subject. From what I gather you are somewhat partial to the idea of an m48 yugo. First let me say this, when they first were available from century in large quantities a few years ago I ordered several and learned the following. There were some listed as very good to excellent condition. As is often the case, the excellent condition guns were exactly that, great shiny new bores and shot very very well with Sellior and Belliot ammo. I am talking 1-2 inch grouping at 100 yards consistantly. I am sure there are still some of these around, and people like Allens or Empire would have some. Then there were the good to very good condition, which in my experience could be better discribed as sewerpipes. Don't be fooled by good to very good. It is definately a crap shoot. If you want an m48 and to stay with 8x57 just look for the excellent condition rifles and have at it. As for your question on the ammo being able to be loaded hotter than what is commercially available let me say this. The rifle was intended for a much hotter cartridge than what we will sell commercially made in the USA. The reason is that there are a few of the very old 8x57jr rifles with a .318 bore still around and with all the sue happy folks around, the american ammo manufacturers won't take a chance that someone will fire a hot load down a tight barrel. 8x57 loaded to it's true potential is a very good round indeed and I am sure others here will agree with this. The .323 bore 8mm rifles with the hotter loads such as S&B are fine rifles and would make a great sporter. Next in line for my money would be a 98/22 again looking for the excellent condition. The main concern obviously being bore condition. The turks would be last in line for my thoughts, as there is such a wide variaty of conditions and variations out there on them. Some are large ring with some of the receiver threads removed for the hand guard ring, some are large ring with small ring threads such as the kkales and some are very old 1893s I believe. In my opinion I would search for and find that special m48 or 98/22 and from there build the rifle of your dreams. Just be willing to hold out and pay more for the good one to begin with and you will do very well indeed. Hope this helps. swamp thing

First off, glad to be of help with the pic posting. Now as for the receiver I am no expert, but I have to say I am in agreement that the safety due to the threads concerns me. Maybe a pistol caliber like the 45 conversion barrels Rineland has would be acceptable, but that is a maybe only. Certainly I would not go with any high pressure barrels on this one. I suppose with a low pressure barrel like the 45 you could even pin the barrel into place after screwing it into the receiver and setting the headspace. It is done on some guns and they have shot thousands of rounds. These are however only thoughts and I make no claim as to there safety on such a project as this. Don't feel that you are the only one that has done something like this, as I suspect we all have done things that we came to regret many times. As I was once told by a boss, if you don't make mistakes sometimes then you are not doing anything. swamp thing

I sir, have excepted that challange and posted a few things that are at least gun related. Hope that others will do the same and soon we will all have new things to look over and maybe jog our own projects. This is definately what we need to be doing at this point. It will certainly get a bit more traffic going here on the site again. Of course, I still will be frequenting the Cud and Fighting areas. swamp thing

Folks, I have posted pictures and some text on the tips of the trade section for a homemade shooting bench, a gun rest and a cleaning vise. For those interested you may want to view the threads. These were all projects that I did with scrap materials at almost no cost and the results were great. Hope it gives you all some ideas as to what you can do to make the shooting hobby a bit more fun without great expense. swamp thing

Not exactly big town Nebraska. I lived in Nebraska for the majority of my lofe, and not very long ago was living in North Bend. Not all that far from Beemer and I am familiar with the town. My brother looked at a place for sale there about 2 years ago, just across the highway from mainstreet. It was next to the river. Were you stationed in Nebraska for awhile? I was suprised to see that Beemer had a shooting range as I was not aware of that. Just wondered how you happened upon it? swamp thing

Was browsing around a few weeks ago and made the mistake of looking at the milsurp rack. As sometimes happens, I stumbled upon one that was calling out to me. It is not too often around here that I find anything that catches my attention, but this old finn did. It is a m91, 1915 receiver, with a 1942D tikka barrel. Finn two piece stock, AZF marked as well as SA marked. The AZF is Austrian capture mark. Dirty but with good bore, dark but strong rifling and non stepped barrel. Bluing is very good and all in all it is a nice old rifle. Will be cleaning it up soon, then will see how it shoots.

Gentleman and Ladies, (see Emy, I included you!) while I do spend most of my time in either Chewing the Cud or Fighting Words, maybe we could repost a few of our old projects or pictures. As Zeke has pointed out, most of our postings as of late have been non gun related. I for one have not been doing much during the summer months since it is a bit hot in the shop. It would not hurt though to repost some old gun stuff for those new to the site. Might make things a bit more interesting for them. For those of us that have been here awhile it might be repetative, but there are others that have not seen them before. If anyone has any pictures still around, or anything to say that might be of interest, why not take a few minutes and post it? I will try to do the same. swamp thing

We too got our first rain in over a month this last weekend. Had about 6 inches in two days and the ground soaked it up like a sponge. Just as MorgansBoss said the creeks did not even fill up. Eastern Georgia was getting mighty dry until the tropical depression came our way. The dust was making everyone have respitory ailments. Sure could not have come at a better time for us. Glad that you others that so badly needed it are getting some as well. swamp thing

Chewing the Cud and Thems Fighten Words are a couple of good places for us to all blow off some steam, discuss what is on our minds, well, I think the rest of you have minds, not sure about myself, and generally hash things out. True, there is seldom a word about gun stuff here, but it is where I start and end my day each day. I have come to think of the rest of you all as friends and would be at a loss without my daily fix. I think the rest of the site will grow again, especially as the winter months come upon us and we all have more time for building and tinkering with our projects. Most of us I would think are busy during the summer months with outdoor stuff and tend to put off the projects until we cannot enjoy the outdoors. Do we have disagreements. Of course, who doesn't that spends any time around others. If everyone was always in agreement on everything, there would be little left to discuss. Bottom line is I would not want the site to change and remove these two sections. It is home for many of us. I hope to be here for a long time to come. swamp thing

Happy birthday wishes to you Emul8. Hope that all your dreams come true in the year to come. You will soon be out of Kaliforni and headed to new places and new things. Gee, wish I was only 42 again. Oh well, won't happen, so I will just wish you the best in yours. Enjoy it thoroughly and maybe even treat yourself to a new rifle or two. swamp thing

Glad things are working out with them. I have definately learned from rebuilding and repairing used computers that one has to check everything. Anytime others have had hands inside a computer you can figure things are wrong in there. I too have found many bent pins, reversed cables and numerous other problems. There have been some that it was simply easier to remove all cables and drives and simply start over with installing them. At least then you know that all is installed properly. At any rate, good to hear that you have them going and someone will benefit from them. swamp thing

fritz, sounds like you have the priorities in order, Mrs. fritz and the guns. Me and mine will pray that things don't turn out badly for you and those around you. Take care of yourselves and know that many folks here will be thinking of you and praying for your well being. swamp thing

fritz, I must say that you have posted the most accurate statement that there could be as to what is a true American. It is these very people that make our country great, and they deserve to be held in the highest of honor. Unlike those that wish to run from war or give up all rights, these people have honor, dignity and a true love for their country. They can hold their heads high in the midst of protestors and worthless vile that would rebuke and oppose them. They can sleep at night knowing that they are willing to give the ultimate sacrifice for what they believe in and hold high. They are the true Americans, the backbone of our country and we should all be proud to call them soldiers. As long as we have people willing to give their all that we may live free and safe then this country still has a fighting chance. My hat is off to each and every one of them. May God bless them and theirs. swamp thing

Karl, I agree with Jimpro that the Dells can be somewhat finicky when trying to set up, but that is becoming the norm with most computers now. As Jimpro stated, reset/short the bios CMOS on the motherboard. You should find a three pin jumper marked cmos. Simply change the jumper to the other setting temporarily. If not, you can remove the battery for a few moments. Once you have done that upon startup go to bios settings, set the IDE settings to auto for the drives installed and any unused IDE's I would set to "not installed". In other words, if it has four IDE drives, only set the ones used to auto. This goes for slave settings as well. Next, look in advance settings or peripherals and set the cdrom0 as first boot device, hard drive0 as second. This is assuming you have only one cdrom drive. If there are two or more, it will boot only off the one set to boot from. Again as I stated previously if the drives, ie cdrom, floppy, and hard drive are set for the CS, cable select setting, remove this jumper and set them for Master. Some hard drives when used by themselves without a slave attached need no jumper. Refer to the settings on the hard drive label. Of course, you will need to reset the clock settings, etc after having shorted the CMOS. You should now be able to boot the computer from the cdrom drive and it should show the presence of the hard drive as it boots. If the hard drive is wiped clean and not partitioned it won't read until it is partitioned and formatted by the operating system, but the boot up screen will show it as installed. Just to clarify when I referred to CDROM 0, on the bios settings for boot sequence there is often a setting for CDROM 0 meaning the first cd drive and CDROM 1 as the second cd drive, just as there is a hard drive0 and a hard drive1. Thus, if you do have multiple cd drives, the computer will only boot off the drive it is set for in the bios. Hope this helps you to get up and running on these machines. swamp thing

I see on the bottom of the page it says you are celebrating your birthday today. If that is right then let me wish you a great one. If not, well, happy birthday anyway!! swamp thing