karlunity Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 What stopped Mr Biden from calling Mr Putin and saying: We understand your problem. As long as you dont invade or help to overthrow the government of the Ukraine we will wont bring Ukraine into NATO. But if ya do..all bets are off and Ukraine gets into NATO. I wonder if that was tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Hess Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 The problem is that the Russians were promised that NATO would not go one inch east after the breakup of the Soviet Union. Then they go and admit Poland and a bunch of other former iron curtain countries, breaking that promise. In typical lawyer fashion, "show me where it's in writing, SUCKER." So, they drew a line and said "no, not Ukraine. Go f' yourself." That's where we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlunity Posted February 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 I suspect that you are right doctor karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic1 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 James Baker never made that promise... https://www.rferl.org/a/nato-expansion-russia-mislead/31263602.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Good article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlunity Posted February 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Read that . It spins but reinforces Russian claims as the only guy to speak under oath ' U.S. ambassador to the Soviet Union, Jack Matlock, who has repeatedly insisted, both in congressional testimony and more recently, that Gorbachev had received assurances that if Germany united, and stayed in NATO, the borders of NATO would not move eastward. said that a promise was given to the Russians /' someone is lying question is who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Hess Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Saw that, Karl. Like I said, "Show me where it is written down, signed, and made into a treaty..." lawyer games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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