FC Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I wrote the TX Ranger Museum in Waco about a shotgun that I thought they might want. Read below. I can't believe the liars out there. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. We have checked our files and find no record of a Capt. Joseph Tillma, Tillman or variations in our records. Due to the large number of "Ranger enhanced" firearms on the market (like tack-decorated "Indian" firearms), we recommend that anyone interested in purchasing such items require an irrevocable letter of return from the seller and documentation regarding the known history of the piece and historical personalities allegedly involved. We see dozens of "enhanced" pieces every year, and have yet to see one verified that did not already have extensive documentation accompanying it. What we have written on our web page regarding badges also applies to firearms and alleged Ranger equipment: http://texasranger.org/artifacts/Fakebadges.htm Please accept our thanks for bringing it to our attention. We expect that whomever purchases the piece will probably seek to research it here. This familiarizes us with it first. Internet auctions are, in a way, unfortunate. They rush purchasers into making decisions about pieces that should be well-considered and researched before they are purchased. All too many times we have to tell buyers that what they have is an out-and-out fake, or that there is no documentation to support purported history. Best Regards, Byron A. Johnson, Executive Director Texas Ranger Hall of Fame and Museum Official State Hall of Fame and Museum of the Texas Rangers Law Enforcement Agency Phone: 254/750-8631 FAX: 254/750-8629 Email: byrontxr@swbell.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Harkin To: info@texasranger.org Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:28 PM Subject: shotgun Hi folks, I have no interest in this item, but having visited your museum when I lived in Waco, thought you'd like to see it. It's a TX Ranger shotgun, evidently. I'd rather see you get this than a private collector. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=153727160 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 It didn't make reserve and has been relisted. Want to notify GunBroker? Bet they pull the auction. I just sent the seller a copy of the response from the Texas Rangers Museum. Let's see what happens. Swamprat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Posted January 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Let's see how much integrity he has. Let me see if I can figure out how to send this to the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 As of 1:00 PM CST it is still listed and the story has not been changed. Swamprat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 It is now 10:00 PM CST and the story hasn't changed. It is pretty obvious this guy's a THIEF. Swamprat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Posted January 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I wrote to the website and only got an automated response. The dollar speaketh (so far). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Got a response tonight saying Gunbroker would look at the ad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 1445 CST 22 jan add still running unchaged Swamprat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Maybe Gunbroker.com doesn't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamprat Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 It did not make reserve again, has been relisted again. No change in the wording of the ad. Just the same BULL! However the bids this time were about a third of the first time around. $1150.00 verses $450.00 Guess maybe the word is getting out. Swamprat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I really get sick of people of low character in the gunsmithing and gun selling business. Reminds me of the Nebraska gun dealer where he was trying to sell a reproduction muzzleloader as a genuine Revolutionary War era rifle. I got messed over by two gunsmiths who were dishonest. We, as a group, have to do better. Gun Broker evidently cares only about their commission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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