ahoyza Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Hi, Ahoyza here, It has been awhile . . . kids are keeping me busy. I would like to pick your brains again. Problem: "click no boom", failure to fire. No dent on primer. Trigger works & releases. Background: The old sporterized handle broke off. So I recently had a new bolt handle installed by a smith. It is very nice as you can see in the pic. However, now the gun won't fire. I tried handloads and factories: no boom. Never had any trouble with it before. I took it apart and all the guts look good. Theory: I think the shroud may need to screw in one more turn. The firing pin does not extend past the bolt face when uncocked. There are gaps between the shroud and the mainstem of the bolt sleeve I don't remember. I point these out in the pics. The shroud will turn about 10 degrees past the stop where it sits now but that is it. Perhaps some welding is in the threads? Do the pics look right to you or do you think I am right that it needs to go another turn? Any other advise? This is my first deer rifle, shot 3 deer with it. I would hate to retire it, bein's she is only 122 years old. You can see pics of this rifle on the forum Thanks in advance for the comments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donmarkey Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Looks like it needs another turn. Was the notch modified with welding. Pre98 had a notch for shroud clearance. Find another bolt or pic of a bolt online and see if the notch looks the same. Or it could be the threads as you thought. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racepres Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Gunsmith bitten 1 turn shy Yep!! Now, ya need to figure out Why.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken98k Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Handle is incorrectly attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahoyza Posted March 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Thanks! Looks like i'm heading in the right direction. Mr.98K from your photos it looks like the shroud should cozy right up to the handle. Does that sound about right? No I do not think the notch was changed at all. Should I take a gamble on taking it back to the smith or make it a diy for me? Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racepres Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Could be just a bit of slag inside the bolt body...Douche it out real good!!! Maybe a Small toothbrush also... BTW it looks wrong also...the FP should be cocked, and the Safety ON to assemble...I believe...Checking!!! Yep without being cocked the Shroud will not screw on... like the 98 Double check your FP is Cocked and the safety on [but Not on Lock] in otherwords Upright position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken98k Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 When screwed all the way in, further progress is stopped by the notch in the root of the bolt handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racepres Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 When screwed all the way in, further progress is stopped by the notch in the root of the bolt handle.Or...by the root of the safety Lever..... if it is Not on safe!!! Don't look Cocked to my eye... Remove the FP and screw the Shroud on alone...Troubleshoot from there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Hess Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 There's some pics of my small ring bolts in here: http://www.sporterizing.com/index.php?showtopic=10935&hl=7x57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Hess Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I think I would at least approach the "smith" and see if he will make it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokengun Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 The root of the new bolt handle is completely wrong. There is a chance it will not be able to be made to work. The bolt looks like its set back about .050. Plus it looks like the original bolt root area was ground/cut to low to be repaired correctly or at least easily. I hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken98k Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Luckily, sm ring bolts are available so no need to retire the rifle.<br />http://www.ssporters.com/product-p/1392-1.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donmarkey Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Wow. I looked at the pics on the pc. I usually just use my phone. Yes. Get a new bolt and get some else to put a handle on it. Who ever did that is not a qualified. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahoyza Posted March 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Thanks guys I feel a little overwhelmed with info. Better too much than not enough! Yes it is uncocked, It is a cock on close, I just pulled it out of the rifle that way. It has an aftermarket safety, no 2nd position. I use the dime trick to assemble it cocked. This not the first handle. The old one broke off way low. If I can get the shroud to turn once more, is there a reason why It wouldnt work? Somewhere on this forum is a pic of my old handle, it got good comments. The site with the 93 handles says it can convert to a 95, what is that project like? What is a root? I appreciate all the help over the last few years. Dont worry about me too much, my Husqvarna blondie still shoots to boring perfection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racepres Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 While a '95 bolt will sometimes go into a '93..I have never seen nor heard of a '93 bolt going into a '95. Unless modified maybe. The "root" of the handle is where the shroud is contacting your bolt before seating fully. Moving the root forward, [Grinding?] and relieving for the shroud would allow the shroud to turn into the bolt properly. Gonna look like Crap tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken98k Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 A master tig welder and a master machinist could rebuild your bolt, or you could fork over a few buck and get a good stripped 93 bolt body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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