oldgrandpainmi

Mod 70- There was no discussion. As a matter of fact, it seemed that he understood what I was doing and have already done to my 8mm rifle, and didn't pay paticular concern with what I've already done. The main focus was what could be done and not done to ANY weapon that is classified as a 03 C&R to keep it a C&R. I wanted to ask more about the classification change and how it effects the A&D (bound) book, but had to let him go. As stated, I will be calling him again, soon! I edited my post to include a paragraph quoted from the firearms regulations guide that you may have missed! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- z1r- you posted when I did so I missed your reply untill now!!! My origonal question, way back when, pertained to what I could do, or not, to a 03 class weapon (like my Turk Mauser) and still be able to sell it as a C&R under the rules and regs of my 03FFL, without getting in trouble. The answer is 'NOT MUCH, IF ANYTHING!!!" OGPIM Sporterized weapons are like kids...... Half the fun in having them is making them!!!

Well guys and gals, the answer MIGHT suprise you!!! I posted this question 4+weeks ago but decided to repost to allow more viewing!!! I have just recieved an answer to that question via telephone from Michael Knapp of the B.A.T.F.E., and really was suprised with his answers! Pretty much, if you do more than look at it, it seems to be reclasified! Here is what he has told me: "ANY work done to any 03 clasified weapon that changes it's funtion or appearence from the origonal configuration, will change it's classification from 03." Here are some examples he gave to me: 1) Changing or modifying the action including bending the bolt handle. 2) Changing or modifying the barrel. 3) Changing or modifying the stock. (see below) 4) Total rebluing and/or finishing. (see below) 5) Adding/modifying a scope or iron sights 6) Removal of folding bayonets. Here are some more statements: "If you take an 03 weapon and do a cold blue touch-up on minor missing bluing, you do not change the classification, but, if you do a total reblue, plating, parkerizing, polished the steel, or anything that changes its appearence from the origonal configuration, the weapon is not an 03 any more." "Stocks can be changed with ORIGONAL stocks of that era and can be refinished, but if you modify it in any way, including the modification of the stock to accept a bent handle bolt, it changes from 03." Replacement parts can be used if from the same vintage, but cannot be of new manufacture. Also from page 107 of the Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide, under paragraph 27cfr178.118, it states: "In classifying firearms as curios or relics under this regulation, ATF has recognized only assembled firearms as curios or relics. Moreover, ATF's classification of surplus military firearms as curios or relics has extended only to those firearms in their origonal military configuration. Frames or recievers of curios or relics and surplus military firearms not in their origonal military configuration were not generally recognized as curios or relics by ATF since they were not of special intrest or value as a collector's items." (This is the paragraph Michael kept refering to.) Due to the limited amount of time I was able to talk to him (because of personal reasons), I was not able to ask him more. So, in a week or so, I will be contacting him again via phone. If you have a question you would like asked, please email me or leave a message in my inbox (oldgrandpainmi@aol.com). You can also call him direct at 304-260-1699 if you wish. OGPIM