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I tried several different ideas to get a pistol mag to work, but it just was too much hassle. I ended up with more or less a single shot with a built in, crude 1 shell capacity, blind box mag. No spring or plate to push up the second round. When the fired shell ejects you can quickly rock the rifle forward and a built in ramp guides the next shell up so you can manually push into the chamber. It was the best I could do with my limited skills and resources, but it does work. I do alot of stand and blind hunting so I usually don't need a rapid second shot, but I wanted at least something faster than fishing in my pocket or belt to get a second shell in case I did need a second shot. I bought this carcano off of gunbroker a while backe for around 60.00 dollars delivered. I got the stock blank off of ebay for like 15.00 dollars. The rest of the materials put together are probably another 60 to 80 bucks. To date this is a sub 200 dollar project. I just hope it shoots good enough to take a deer down. I will count it as a success.

Latest pics of my MN project. It is all done except for the metqal finishing which I will be doing Aug 15th or the 22nd. Going wth Sniper green on the action and barrel. May even paint the scope rings as well. It will have a 2x9x50 scope with low rings.

I am down to the final stages on the stock and metal finishing. I have set August 15th or August 22 as the day I am going fire up my parkerizing and duracoat finishing lines so I hope to have the stock work done by then as well. It will be the First or second week of September before I can actually put a few round through it. Here is some progress pics

Looks awsome!!!! Great job on the repair.

Guys need some advice/help. I am in the final stages on this project. I'll get some updated pics soon. However, I have run into an issue. I got the rilfe barrel threaded on and tightened in by barrel vice after tapping the reciever for scope mount. So it's on and timed to the tick mark on the receiver. The problem is the bolt will not close when a cartridge is loaded in the chamber. the bolt handle stops about at a 45 to 40 degree angle when rotating down to the closed position. I am assuming this is just before it engages the lug raceway. The scope mount screws are not protruding in the raceway or interferring in any way, and the the bolt closes completely without a cartridge in the camber. Now I am pretty sure I know the answer to this, but thought I'd check with the group. I need to finish ream the chamber now that I have the barrel in posistion... If that is the correct answer then this is the tool I should need, right??? http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=766407 Please let me know if I am off base here. I am so close to completely wrapping up three to four rifles now I can taste it. Thanks for all your help, Darin

Looking real good. I am impressed with how you got the stock to look. I think my next M-N project will be a mannilicher. I am also waiting on my barreled action to get back from being sandblasted. I am hoping to do a park and then duracoat to put the finishing touches on it in the next month or so. New job is eating up a lot of my time right now.

If you got the cash I would opt for the Ruger 77/44 bolt action. If you don't knock em the first time your not gonna get another shot with the patch of woods that close. They'll be gone before you can blink. Yup That .357 mag would have done you well in this case living on the outskirts of town. You could always go inexpensive and pick up a single shot Handi-rifles in one of the pistol calibers. (.357, .44, or .45 Long colt). Use it on yotes and deer...

I am in the process of sporterizing a nagant and this is the route I am taking less the bolt handle. http://www.cabelas.com/p-0003643.shtml The ATI line of products seems to be ok. You will have to do alot of inletting work on the stock if you pop a Timney trigger in. I am going to send the bolt out to get a longer bolt welded and swept for a nicer look. Good luck and post some pics of progress.

The box arrived today. Excellent work!

I would be very interested in seeing the Mannlicher stock. The trigger and scope kit should be here next week. So I am getting close to wrapping this up. I'll post pix when I get it finally finished in a month or two.

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This is the a Carcano that has been rebarreled to 357 Mag. I have carved the stock from the left over claro walnut piece from my other Carcano project I was working on a while back. It is about 55% completed. Have alot of detail work left including building out the bottom metal and trigger guard. I am using hardware store stock 3/4 x 1/8 inch aluminim to that. I plan on tapping for scope mount. Not sure exaclty how yet, but I'm working on it. May even send the bolt to have it further turned down. Will be sandlasted and duracoated. Plan on using this guy for upcoming 2010 deer season.

I picked up a Mosin Nagant that was already in the process of being sporterized. I have worked the inletting to get the action and barrel to fit in the ATI stock. This was kinda of surprising to me. I figured it would just drop right in, but that was not the case. I also threw on the bi-pod as the barrel is really long. I am in the process of buying the ATI Mosin Scope mount kit and will be sending the bolt out for sporterizing to use with scope. I have a timney trigger on order as well so hopefully this will be nice long range shooter to knock some yotes around. I am going to keep this one in the original caliber for now.

Yes, but I'm a distant relative of Al Gore and I want to say "I invented it"!!!!! Ok, it was fun to do the mental excersize of getting there. It looks like using the 7.2x39 brass is the easiest way to go instead of the 6.5 grendel. Did some more reading on the links that are posted and some further research elsewhere. Let's see I just pulled the barrel off another beat up Spanish mauser to harvest the action. It will not win any beauty contests but it will work. Got some real pitting in the non vital areas, but I plan on sandblasitng, parking and then Duracoating in a matte color. What I need is 150.00 bucks for the dies. I found a 1 inch OD .38 cal blank at Numrich for about 80.00 bucks, or I can pick up another one of the 27.00 dollar ones that are pre chambered in .357 and perhaps use the junk barrle to harvest the threads and sleeve into the existing LR barrel. still need it re-chambered though... I also just picked up a black cherry fireplace mantle that I can whittle a stock or two... Seems like I got another one coming together, but it is gonna take some time to get to this one. I'll get pics posted soon of the carcano porjects as well as some of the other ones I have been working on.

I'll get some pics posted soon. I got the ATI stock fitted. Working on getting the barrel to free float. I added a bipod to it. New Yote masher... Just for everyones info the ATI stock was not a drop in fit and has required alot more fitting than I expected.

.357x39 is exaclty what I was thinking. Call it the .357 Hoosier. Hey that doesn't sound too bad... Should be able to use Lee dies to neck out the 7.62x39 case and ready made .357 bullets. Just need to get a .38 barrel blank and get the chamber made. I will have a 98 mauser action coming available shortly that should be a good candidate for just such an experiment. mwhahahaha....

Looking to start handloading for this round. Does anyone have a recommendation on a readily available commercial bullet? I know they should be in the .310 to .312 range, but have no prior experience with this round.

Ok you guys got me, I'm gay about deer hunting... In addition so I can one up all the Homos I am into necro-bestiality too which is why I like to deer hunt Just kidding!

Welcome! I started this hobby of mine about a year ago and have been hooked ever since. Live in Indiana too so I know exactly what you are talking about for our deer rifles. I am currently working on a Carcano that has been rebarreled to .357 Mag. I hope to have it finished by September or October of this year for the upcoming deer season. I am planning on a doing a M91 mosin in a rimmed pistol cartridge, maybe .454 Casull or .45 Long colt for the 2011 season. I just picked up a mosin and have the new trigger from timney on order. But I got to finish the other 3 projects I have running first. I also have been looking for a rimless cartridge that would be Indiana legal and can stick on a mauser action, a wildcat variation of the 7.62x39 maybe????? Just need to get the bullet diameter up past .357. That would be pretty cool. What part of Indiana are you in? I live about 20 minutes outside the Lafayette area. Rivitr is also close to the Lafayette area.

I appreciate your and Rivitrs time and effort on this. Thank You!

I am going to change from a mauser featherwieght to a mauser sportsman. I need the extra 20 elsewhere cause I got a new toy.

rivitr, Agreed appreciate the time and effort.

After having the same debate myself I am going with a parkerized finish and then duracoat. I have not gone through the process yet, but from what I have read it's all in the preparation of the piece you are wanting to paint. If anyone has actually done this please jump in and correct or give their real world experience. From what I understand you need a quality airbrush and small compressor as I have read that this is also key to a quality even finish. I also understand that duracoat loves a rough and super clean surface so you should at a minimum to sand it with a 220 grit or have it sandblasted. Alot of people who swear by duracoat then parkerize the parts before duracoating. Sounds like a lot of work, but if it truely does what duracoat says it will the finish should outlive us all. I am still building my parking tanks and trying to get an airbrush and compressor, so I guess we'll see. JMHO

Here is the way I look at it cause I'm a newbie to both the shooting and reloading. I've only been doing it for about a year. So I am by no means even remotely an expert, but whenever I hear someone poopoo an early 20th century military round I get real suspicious of how much they really know... If you think about the origins of the round itself, it was developed by, and at the time of its developement, one of the finest militaries in the world. The Germans probably put 10's of thousands of man hours in the develpement and testing of this round for the primary purpose of killing at a median range of 300 meters and still be very effective in killing an ememy combatant unsing massed fire at ranges of a 1000 meters or farther. Add to that the thousands of man hours by enthusiest of the handloading world lending their mixtures to the cartridge and you can probably do things with this class of bullets/cartridges the Germans even thought impossible. Most of the 30 caliber class of bullets/cartridges developed by all the major powers that we use today came out of two world wars and are probably the most time tested cartridges of all time. The ones that truley sucked have long since disappeared or are so rare you can't afford to shoot them even unsing handloaded stuff. The French Lebel(?) comes to mind, no suprise there. The only reason I can think of why the 8mm is not as popular as the 30-06 is the Germans lost. Now that I think about it, we only see the rise of smaller caliber rounds during the Cold War era as semi-auto and auto weapons became the military norm, and as WW2 forshadowed, most of the battles for the forseeable future will be fought in urban environments and not with massed infantry in trenches over open terrain. Ok, enough with the history lesson/debate. It's just my opinion and I'm a history nut. Any of the early 20th century military rounds will kill anything walking North America at any hunting range most of us newbies will ever encounter. .303 .308/30-06 .323 7.62x54R All extensively field tested and approved!

I second Ken98ks comment. Very nice work, and yes I am very interested in carving stocks. I am a newbie to all this, but I am finding I do enjoy the woodworking aspect very much. I am hand shaping/carving my second gunstock now. If I can get something remotely looking as good as some of your stocks I would be very pleased indeed.