So The Peckerwoods Want A Race War?

[FC]

So the boogers want to screw up this nation like their own south of the border nations? Screw 'em!

 

From Investor's Business Daily

 

 

Some Latino Protesters Support ‘Reconquista’ Of The Southwest

 

 

 

Chock-full of students, ‘brown power’ groups gain conservatives’ ire

 

 

BY BRIAN MITCHELL INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

 

 

 

The true colors of many Latinos have been on display in the past week of protests, and they weren’t just red, white and blue.

They were also red, white and green (Mexico), yellow, blue and red (Ecuador), red, yellow and green (Bolivia), blue and white (El Salvador, Guatemala) and red, white, blue and black (Anahuac).

Ana who?

Anahuac is the name for North America preferred by the Mexica Movement, one of several Hispanic separatist groups that loudly proclaim their hatred of “white” America.

The groups are small, but their younger members often go on to become mainstream Hispanic activists, never laying aside their allegiance to “La Raza.”

“There is a racial aspect to this,” said Glynn Custred, professor of anthropology at California State University, East Bay.

“They have no intention of assimilating,” he said. “There’s no secret about it. They tell you what they want to do. It’s just amazing to me that the rest of the country hasn’t caught on to it.”

The major players in the Hispanic lobby deny any racist motives.

“The word ‘La Raza,’ as it’s used in our name, is more about — you know — the human race,” said Flavia Jimenez, immigration policy analyst with the National Council of La Raza.

Whether someone identifies with La Raza is “more an issue of language, and cultural and ethnic background,” she said.

But where race leaves off and ethnicity begins is not always clear. What is clear is that some Hispanics see themselves as part of a separate nation with a better claim on U.S. territory than whites.

The Mexica movement claims Olmec ancestry and aims to take back the continent from “racist thieving” Europeans on behalf of the “Nican Tlaca,” or indigenous people.

Mexicas resist all European labels such as Latino, Chicano, Hispanic, Mestizo and American. At the March 25 rally in Los Angeles, they carried banners declaring, “All Europeans are illegal aliens” and “We are Indigenous — the ONLY owners of this continent.”

Conservative blogs and talk radio jumped on those marchers’ anti-American sentiments.

 

Hard To Assimilate Separatists

 

Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies says such rhetoric makes it harder for Mexican-Americans to assimilate.

“That radical rhetoric is mainstreamed,” he said. “It doesn’t mean that everybody shares it. It means that it’s a legitimate part of the debate.”

Closer to the mainstream is the Aztlan movement, which claims Aztec and Spanish ancestry and wants only the western half of the U.S. for “La Raza de Bronze.”

A leading Aztlan group is the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan, known by its Spanish acronym MEChA.

Like many other Hispanic groups, MEChA came out of the “Brown Power” movement of the late ’60s. Its founding motto was, “For those in the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing.”

Many of California’s leading Hispanic politicians were “Mechistas” in college, including Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and former Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante.

Bustamante’s refusal to condemn MEChA contributed to his defeat by Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 2003 gubernatorial race.

As a student group, MEChA tends to be dominated by immigrants’ children and descendants, not immigrants themselves.

But the views of most Mexicans aren’t far away from MEChA’s.

A 2002 Zogby poll of Mexicans in Mexico found that 58% believe the U.S. Southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico, having been stolen from Mexico in the 1800s.

Not surprisingly, 57% believe Mexicans have the right to enter the U.S. whenever they please.

“There’s sort of an irredentist sentiment,” said George Grayson, professor of government and Mexico specialist at the College of William and Mary.

“One seldom hears even educated Mexicans saying the laws on border crossing should be followed,” he said. “It’s almost as if the U.S. has an obligation to redress its sins of the nineteenth century.”

[Guest Guest_karlunity_*]

Anyone who follows the law and wants to be AMerican is welcome...as to the othersI say:

 

Bring it on...I could use a good war...I don't even have to commute to this one.

 

 

 

Karl

[BradD]

It's mostly just dingdongs and those who want to aggravate their American hosts. Not that they shouldn't be watched, just not responded to.

 

Most of them couldn't pour weewee out of their zapatos with the instructions printed on the heel, en espanol.

 

Rest assured, if any serious such attempt were ever made, we would ressurect Sherman to lead the contra.

 

Viva la caca,

B

[mauserbull]

did you read the above? It is happening!!!!!!!!!

[fritz]

Yes, it is hard to ignore someone (and something) that is happening on this magnitude.

 

Karl, a war is not what the mainstream Americans want (we are having enough of them already, thank you).

 

But, if a war should come out of this (hard to visualize as this is a political hot potato with no "e") it would be about as hard to win as the war in Iraq.

 

Remember the War of Northern Agression? This would be the War of Southern Agression, and I fear that it would take the lives of many innocent victims.

 

We can do better.

 

Seal the borders now, and avoid this conflict. If we don't do it soon, it will be too late.

 

fritz

[Emul8]

I don't understand the Mexican mentality at all. They claim that they would like to "reclaim" the U. S. southwest for Mexico and all "indigenous" peoples of the Americas, but where is their alliance with American Indian groups? Let me tell you...NOWHERE, it doesn't exist, so clearly, that can't REALLY be their agenda. Secondly, Mexicans, for the most part, aren't honestly any more indigenous than I am...most Mexicans today are descendants of a mixture of Spanish and Aztec or Mayan "natives". Mexicans are all "breeds" like I am. Thirdly, no one has ever said that Mexicans can't keep Mexico...in fact, they are welcome to it...but dang it, they need to remember they still HAVE their own country.

 

This stuff that Mexicans are doing makes about as much sense as, say, American Indians going over to, oh, I don't know...Alcatraz Island and "reclaining" the United States for the native people. The U. S. southwest belongs to the people of America...period. But IF it were to "belong" to any particular cultural group, it should belong to American Indians before anyone else. Mexicans claim that the U. S. southwest was "stolen" from them in the 1800s...well, la de da...it was "stolen" from American Indians hundreds of years before Mexico allegedly got screwed!

 

I lived in Mexico for a while as a teenager, and while I can honestly say that there were many beautiful things about the nation, topographically, as well as architecturally in some instances, I will concede that the majority of urban areas in that country have been despoiled by the residents. In other words, it seems that some folks of this culture don't mind living in squalor and filth around them. This is regardless of income level.

 

When I lived in northern CA, I remember leaving an Indian (as in the subcontinent) restaurant, which was located in a strip mall. The surrounding area was inhabited by a large number of Mexicans since the housing in that region was a bit more affordable than other areas. In the strip mall, next to the Indian restaurant was, I believe, a check cashing place. The day that I was there, I saw a Mexican woman enter the check cashing place, leaving her three children outside the front door. There were two cement planters near the door of the check cashing joint. Those three kids proceeded to demolish everything in those planters whilst waiting for their mother, and one kid even decided to take a whiz in the planter...he had to be about 8 years old. I was completely disgusted. I told my companion, "If you ever go to Mexico and see how it's denuded of vegetation...THAT'S why!".

 

It seems that Mexicans are "finished" with Mexico and are ready to move on up here to wreak their havoc here.

[Guest karl]

fritz.

 

I stand by my statement. If they mean to have a war...lets get it on.

 

Karl and the spirit of 76... and ...2006

 

 

[BradD]

well....like I said in another thread a couple weeks ago, I don't see how Spaniards tromping through here 500 years ago raping Indians somehow makes the SW Mexica. Except for the Gadsden, none of it was seriously ever Mexico. The Aztecas are still down in the same place making the same mess they have for the last 1000 years - not much going on there that matters. For those that still have WWII vet dads and grampas alive ask them if they saw any Aztecs helping out during the Big One - they contributed nada (unless they were "Mexican-Americans" who did distinguish themselves heroically, time after time, for their country - America).

 

California was the land of Californios and Indians, a few Euros and a few Americans, definitely NOT Mexicans, they hated them and supported the Americans to take it. When Spain exited a few years before, the Spaniards just said, "whatever" and left (Me and Em are still waiving at them..with one finger). They didn't have any authority to give anything to anybody.

 

Where does this "prior ownership" crapola ever come from?

 

They're just a bad smelling gas, treat them accordingly. The real ones will still be bustin' their butts at work tomorrow.

 

Viva la caca (and take it home with you),

B

[rebel49]

I agree with karl, although I will have to stock up on ammo. There has been a large influx of Hispanic individuals at our range late last year, and since opening day on the first of this month. I wonder, is this an indicator of things to come? Homeland Security was out late last season asking questions like " Do you have a lot of Hispanics,Middle Eastern and East European types using the range?" I answer Yes to all. I was told to report any supicious groups to them. Yeah, right! I would be on the phone all day doing that.

I guess I'll have to stock up on the ammo, and if it comes to anything "If it's brown it's down".

Rebel49

[swamprat]

Rebel 49,

Your comment of "it's brown it's down" is wrong! I sir am brown, being of the Creek Indian heritage. I would suggest you aim your target at the WHITE TRASH next door that supports this Mexican movement. The same WHITE TRASH that brought you equal oppurtunity, none segregated schools, and no prayer in school. The same WHITE TRASH that had the "ten commandments" removed from government buildings. If you had bothered to take out THE TRASH, the United States may not be in this position today!

 

Swamprat

[karlunity]

I agree with Swamprat.

 

Most of this problem is of our own "liberal making".

 

We have allowed that pride in being an American to be taken away by revisionist history in books, TV and movies. We were the ones who allowed or even encouraged people to cling to their "roots".

We allowed "feelgoodism and do goodism to smash our national unity.

 

We can and shall stop it.

 

Yes, we have got to close our borders to seas of outlanders who would make us part the third world but we have also got to close our minds to the liberal filth and lies that has so weakened our national spirit and our national will.

 

This is not an of issue race, I would oppose a swam of blond blueeyed Danes crossing our borders without papers and waving the Danish flag in our face.

 

This is an issue of nationhood.

[Emul8]

I apologize if I have left the wrong impression and if anyone thinks that I am in any way in support of this influx of nastiness and misguided zeal. I'm not.

 

Let me order up some more ammo, and I will stand with any of you fellas...though, I haven't been to the range as much as I would like, so we're going to have to take a chance with my marksmanship! LOL!

 

 

[BradD]

SR, Karl and Reb,

 

You guys have put a whole new face on this that I think we all need to think on. I'll be back tomorrow with my thoughts, but I see this as serious. There is a common thread among we, the faithful, but we need to scratch through it.

 

SR your stuff is scary, in that it rings of truth we may not be ready for. If we, white dudes, can be indulged for a moment, we don't see brown folk and red folk the same. I guess it may be the language, but that is simplistic, considering most of us know the history and aren't too happy about it.

 

What happened to the red man (both by the white man and the "brown man" - Geronimo didn't have much problem with Americans, he hated Mexicans) without a lot of documentation, we still feel it. As for the Brownrace, that is mostly a creation of the liberal media. It doesn't have that much to do with reality.

 

Karl, on this I must agree with you completely. The 'snards that we send to DC betray us every time.

 

Reb, I think you are with us and there really isn't any dispute here.

 

We need to think on this and we are headed somewhere that matters.

 

Talk to you tomorrow.

 

B

[FC]

I'm afraid this won't be America anymore when my kids are in their forties. My ex told me the Frenchies (her ancestors) in Massachusetts lived in their own little community and spoke their own language. They looked down on her "Pepe'" for integrating with English-speakers, and going to their schools.

 

One of my brothers (in Houston) hired a lot of wetbacks because he said Americans don't work hard enough (cheap enough). I opposed it, but he has his own mind about things.

 

What galls me is a porous border and just anybody with enough gumption can break and enter, then get pat on the hiney treatment. I despise lawmakers for allowing this. I also despise people in the San Antonio area (even at an Army hospital) speaking a heck of a lot of Spanish on the job, which is supposedly not allowed for work communication.

 

Every border in the world has changed from buy-outs, war, and invasions. Nobody has a clean nose, not even indigenous peoples. Any person is capable of stealing from, or killing another person. Question is- who'll let it happen?

[Guest Guest_karlunity_*]

You only have a land as long as you are strong and hard enough to hold it.

 

Karl

[littlecanoe]

Fascinating thread. I see that there is much agreement and many who are ready to take up (action) against the invading hord(s). I agree. It's time to restore our country!

 

In response to Swampthing's post in Fighting words (which is where this reply may better fit) I have written my Congressmen.

 

In the Spirit of "Karl the Liberator's" post, Strength is definitely part of our problem.

 

Here are a few grenades, but we as a nation, as people with conservative and patriotic values need to think. We need a bit of introspection. Thus said, I'll stand in line and face these same grenades that I toss!

 

We are selfish: We view children as a burden. We do our part and have the x.x amount that we are supposed to have as good Americans. We barely replace ourselves and our spouses. We need to have many kids and teach them good solid Judeo-Christian principles and teach them history.

 

We are self-absorbed and self-centered: Quit worrying too much about retirement, living the good life, being a bejillionaire, having a dog named benji, a 3 car garage complete with a new sedan, new truck and new ATV and bass boat. Everyone who reads this post is going to die. You are moving in that direction with each beat of the clock. The above is a small and stupid legacy to leave behind. Who will care after you have gone? Who will hold down the fort when you are gone? Who will the good men be who stand as strong leaders of this great nation when you are gone if you don't make them?

 

My 94.5yo paternal grandfather died this afternoon. He had 8 children, 7 of which are or have been contributing members of society. One of my uncles while reflecting (This uncle is 81 and married my dad's oldest sister) stated that if he had it all to do over again he would have had as many children as he could have instead of just the three that he did.

 

We are defeating ourselves.

[karlunity]

I agree.

 

We have made many of our own problems.

 

We have allowed the home to be undermined and the values that once mothers taught the children:

 

honesty, honor, fear of God and love of nation are slipping away.

 

Fathers and mothers leave their families "they grow apart" or "Still love but are not in love".

 

We have allowed the "disposal" of millions of babies.

 

We have killed more Americans than any feared and hated foe ever did in the name of "career" or self-actualization".

 

We have, in our pride, set before or allowed to be set before us, goals and ideals that no -one

short of God almighty could meet and filled ourselves guilt and angst when we failed to reach them.

 

 

We have taken a noble history and allowed it to be rewritten by fools, knaves and cowards.

 

Enough. Rise and fight. Contact your Congress people and tell them it is "Enough".

 

 

Karl

[swamp_thing]

Karl, let us pray that the masses will hear the call and begin to speak out about how they feel. This country needs to have the people regain control of what is taking place. Complacency is rampant and will be the ruination of our fine country. Let the will of the people be done, and that can only be done if the people voice their will to begin with. swamp_thing

[FC]

Yup, there's a lot of emphasis on having more, except kids. We don't all need 8 kids like my parents had, but there is a balance in there somewhere. I have my 3 girls, and that's my share.

[FC]

It pays to learn some English

[Emul8]

I can't have children. Interestingly enough, I owe THAT fact to some Mexicans who um, damaged me severely in the ultimate invasion of my personal space.

 

However, I can say that my cousins and the Indian side of my family are MORE than making up for any "losses" sustained by my own uterus being out of order! LOL!

 

I'll just be sure to ply this next generation of my tribespeople with sweetness and candy so that they love me enough to grow up and let me teach them marksmanship and national pride. What do you think? It'll have to do for now.

[fritz]

While it must be recognized that we (as a race of other than hispanic) will never equal their reproduction rate, take comfort in the fact that we are trying harder than them (the hispanics) to teach our few offspring the meaning of being an American.

 

Ours will be better educated than theirs. A few of theirs will be more intellegent, but if they adhere to the culture of their ancestors (as so many do) they will revert back to the ways of their parent country.

 

And I don't give a damn if they were born here or not, their parent country will always be MEXICO!

 

 

fritz

[littlecanoe]

Em, I'm truely sorry. As I've become older(Sliding into middle age) the importance of family has become much more dear. I understand now the impact of family on and in my life. Wish I'd had some of this wisdom about 20-30 yrs ago.

 

It's very nice that you are working to influence your nieces and nephews. You may have more ability to impact them than you realize. "Aunty Em, Aunty Em" followed by the patter of little feet as they come to sit at your feet and gobble up nuggets of truth and wisdom.........

 

Fritz, Unfortunately strength derived from wisdom and knowledge can be overcome by the strength of the hord.; Sheer numbers. Kinda like when Ghengis Khan swept Westward.

[karlunity]

I think that any people can become Americans...if they WANT to.

Karl