karlunity Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Fellas. I have a can of 4064 IMR and 3031 IMR along with FMJ .308 147 and FMJ 123 .310 about the shop. I am thinking about making up some target loads to see if the MOSINS can equal the K-31. Any Ideas ? Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gun nutty Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 1991 American Rifleman: Check out: http://www.reloadersnest.com/frontpage.asp?CaliberID=216 Look at the bottom of the linked page for data by both powder and bullet weight. Don't blow yerself up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sphingta Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 i haven't reloaded for mine yet but here are some quick load predictions. Pleaes realize these are quickload predictions and not tested. They should give a starting point. As always start low and work up Cartridge : 7.62 x 54 R Russ.Nagant Bullet : .310, 123, Hornady FMJ 3147 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.676 inch or 67.97 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm Powder : IMR 4064 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -20.0 80 40.54 2443 1630 25700 6044 83.6 1.427 -18.0 82 41.56 2502 1709 27321 6251 84.9 1.391 -16.0 84 42.57 2561 1791 29045 6454 86.2 1.357 -14.0 86 43.58 2620 1874 30878 6655 87.4 1.323 -12.0 88 44.60 2679 1960 32829 6851 88.6 1.290 -10.0 90 45.61 2738 2048 34891 7043 89.8 1.258 -08.0 92 46.63 2797 2137 37062 7230 90.8 1.227 -06.0 94 47.64 2857 2229 39357 7411 91.9 1.193 -04.0 96 48.65 2916 2322 41798 7586 92.9 1.160 -02.0 98 49.67 2975 2418 44394 7754 93.8 1.129 +00.0 100 50.68 3035 2515 47157 7914 94.6 1.099 +02.0 102 51.69 3094 2614 50098 8067 95.5 1.069 ! Near Maximum ! +04.0 104 52.71 3153 2715 53230 8211 96.2 1.041 ! Near Maximum ! +06.0 106 53.72 3212 2818 56569 8346 96.9 1.013 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +08.0 108 54.73 3271 2922 60131 8471 97.5 0.987 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +10.0 110 55.75 3330 3029 63934 8586 98.0 0.961 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value: +Ba 100 50.68 3190 2779 55801 8023 98.9 1.021 ! Near Maximum ! Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value: -Ba 100 50.68 2840 2202 38779 7471 87.1 1.198 Cartridge : 7.62 x 54 R Russ.Nagant Bullet : .308, 147, Sellier-Bellot FMJ-BT 2908 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.944 inch or 74.78 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm Powder : IMR 4064 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -20.0 79 40.54 2370 1834 29030 6556 89.7 1.473 -18.0 81 41.56 2426 1921 30827 6757 90.8 1.436 -16.0 83 42.57 2481 2009 32732 6953 91.9 1.399 -14.0 85 43.58 2536 2099 34751 7144 92.9 1.364 -12.0 87 44.60 2591 2191 36891 7328 93.8 1.329 -10.0 89 45.61 2646 2285 39159 7506 94.7 1.292 -08.0 91 46.63 2701 2381 41563 7676 95.5 1.257 -06.0 93 47.64 2755 2478 44111 7838 96.3 1.223 -04.0 95 48.65 2810 2577 46814 7992 97.0 1.190 -02.0 97 49.67 2864 2677 49682 8137 97.6 1.158 ! Near Maximum ! +00.0 99 50.68 2918 2779 52725 8273 98.1 1.128 ! Near Maximum ! +02.0 101 51.69 2971 2882 55956 8398 98.6 1.098 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +04.0 103 52.71 3025 2987 59390 8513 99.0 1.070 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +06.0 105 53.72 3078 3092 63041 8617 99.4 1.043 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +08.0 107 54.73 3131 3200 66925 8709 99.6 1.016 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +10.0 109 55.75 3183 3308 71063 8790 99.8 0.991 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value: +Ba 99 50.68 3041 3019 61989 8125 100.0 1.053 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value: -Ba 99 50.68 2752 2472 43715 8045 92.6 1.225 Cartridge : 7.62 x 54 R Russ.Nagant Bullet : .308, 147, Sellier-Bellot FMJ-BT 2908 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.944 inch or 74.78 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm Powder : IMR 3031 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -20.0 76 38.53 2427 1923 27870 6885 97.2 1.480 -18.0 78 39.49 2482 2010 29639 7048 97.9 1.443 -16.0 80 40.45 2536 2099 31516 7200 98.6 1.407 -14.0 82 41.42 2589 2188 33510 7341 99.1 1.372 -12.0 84 42.38 2642 2279 35630 7469 99.4 1.338 -10.0 85 43.34 2695 2370 37883 7585 99.7 1.303 -08.0 87 44.31 2746 2462 40267 7687 99.9 1.268 -06.0 89 45.27 2798 2555 42769 7776 100.0 1.234 -04.0 91 46.23 2848 2648 45405 7853 100.0 1.202 -02.0 93 47.20 2898 2742 48193 7929 100.0 1.170 ! Near Maximum ! +00.0 95 48.16 2948 2836 51143 8003 100.0 1.140 ! Near Maximum ! +02.0 97 49.12 2996 2930 54264 8076 100.0 1.111 ! Near Maximum ! +04.0 99 50.09 3044 3025 57567 8146 100.0 1.083 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +06.0 101 51.05 3092 3121 61065 8215 100.0 1.057 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +08.0 103 52.01 3139 3217 64769 8281 100.0 1.031 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +10.0 104 52.98 3186 3314 68695 8345 100.0 1.006 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value: +Ba 95 48.16 3044 3025 61486 7690 100.0 1.062 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value: -Ba 95 48.16 2798 2556 41031 8312 98.8 1.246 Cartridge : 7.62 x 54 R Russ.Nagant Bullet : .310, 123, Hornady FMJ 3147 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.676 inch or 67.97 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm Powder : IMR 3031 Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -20.0 77 38.53 2500 1707 24353 6521 92.2 1.437 -18.0 79 39.49 2559 1789 25861 6716 93.4 1.402 -16.0 81 40.45 2618 1872 27467 6904 94.5 1.368 -14.0 83 41.42 2677 1958 29171 7083 95.4 1.335 -12.0 85 42.38 2736 2045 30981 7252 96.3 1.303 -10.0 86 43.34 2795 2133 32906 7412 97.1 1.272 -08.0 88 44.31 2853 2223 34952 7560 97.8 1.241 -06.0 90 45.27 2911 2314 37125 7697 98.4 1.211 -04.0 92 46.23 2968 2406 39444 7822 98.9 1.177 -02.0 94 47.20 3025 2499 41908 7934 99.4 1.146 +00.0 96 48.16 3082 2594 44534 8034 99.7 1.116 +02.0 98 49.12 3138 2689 47332 8119 99.9 1.086 +04.0 100 50.09 3193 2785 50315 8191 100.0 1.058 ! Near Maximum ! +06.0 102 51.05 3248 2881 53483 8249 100.0 1.030 ! Near Maximum ! +08.0 104 52.01 3302 2978 56830 8302 100.0 1.004 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +10.0 106 52.98 3355 3075 60384 8354 100.0 0.979 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value: +Ba 96 48.16 3216 2824 54261 7694 100.0 1.031 ! Near Maximum ! Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value: -Ba 96 48.16 2888 2278 35836 7977 95.0 1.222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlunity Posted July 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Thanks fellas. I made up some loads using 3031 and a lee 2.5 dipper (charge wt. 32.8) 147 fmj. Crimped. The groups avg 2.5 inches at 100 meters firing from the sandbags and the sight set on 400 meters. I think that the rifle, may with some effort at reloading and a bit better "holding" by the loose nut behind the rifle, do as well as my K-31. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGRWJB Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Try some of the heavy bullets Karl. The Lapua 200grain bullets shoot very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_karlunity_* Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Thanks RG. Take care. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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