rdm1962 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I passed on a K98 at a gun show today. The seller wanted $175 but I got him down to $125. He wasn't selling anythig just B.S.ing with some of the other "experts". It still had the military stock and all furniture that were stamped. Someone had D&T it, weaver mounts were installed. I couldn't see production code or date because they were under the mounts. Welded on a new bolt handel that looked realy good. A low profile safey was installed but didn't function corectly. The barrel was strong and had a good muzzle. The reason I passed on it was, it looked like someone had tried to remove and or install the barrel with a pipe wrench. There were teeth marks in each direction on the barrel at the front of the reciever. My consern was that a bubba bent or warped the reciever tring to do something with the barrel. We don't see K98's at this price very often regaurdless of sporterizing or not. Did I walk away from a deal or a new paperweight? What do you more experanced minds think? Ralph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donmarkey Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 If the bolt cycled fine I would have picked it up. I don't like to admit it but I remove all my surplus barrels with a pipe wrench. It just so much faster and I throw the barrels away usually anyway. If I have a good barrel to remove I use the barrel vise. The pipe wrench is just a lot easier and you don't have to remove the rear sight. I'd be more concerned with the drill and tap job myself. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1r Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 If the bolt cycled fine I would have picked it up. I don't like to admit it but I remove all my surplus barrels with a pipe wrench. It just so much faster and I throw the barrels away usually anyway. If I have a good barrel to remove I use the barrel vise. The pipe wrench is just a lot easier and you don't have to remove the rear sight. I'd be more concerned with the drill and tap job myself. Don I just use a half length bushing to remove barrels with the military sights still attached. When it comes to shopping for a donor action I prefer unmolested receivers. I could care less what else has been done but first choice is always an unaltered action (includes bolt). Sometimes, if price is right, I will consider actions that have some alterations, namely those that I can fix if I later determine them to be messed up. I am always most cautious about receivers that have been D&T'd. Most D&T jobs are poorly done. I will sometimes chance it if I feel that the rifle has parts in excess of the action that are worth more than the asking price. While a pipe wrench might be fine for barrel removal, it certainly is not for barrel installation. I would question what other "short-cuts" might have been taken. Had the action been original I would gladly have ponied up $125. However, without actually seeing it it is hard to say if I would have spent that in the condition you describe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimro Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 I once scratched an index mark on an M38 K.Kale Turk barrel and receiver, then proceeded to remove the barrel with a pipe wrench, d/t using my dads mill to align the holes, and torqued the barrel back on until the index marks matched again using the same pipe wrench. If I would have had a little more foresight I would have soaked the receiver ring in oil for a week or two before attempting to d/t, that dang barrel wouldn't budge any other way. I was smart enough to pay a real smith to bend the bolt, but dumb enough to do the d/t myself. I wouldn't recommend the practice, but the headspace was fine afterward and I shot the dickens out of that rifle. Think about it this way, you saved yourself 125 bucks and you aren't going to worry about a potentially screwed up action. Jimro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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