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CDNN Investments/Sports has Butler Creek black injection molded plastic/fiberglass stocks on sale for $39.99 each for the standard length Mauser 98. These stocks have shadow line cheek peice, modeled in checkering, and good lines. They can be had for 98s with military barrels or commercial 98s, many are left overs from the Remington 798 rifles. They make a good stock for a knock around gun.

 

Mauser 98 with military barrel.................#BUT99005902

 

Commercial Mauser 98s..........................#KBI98S

 

 

http://www.cdnninvestments.com/mauserstocks.html

 

http://www.cdnninvestments.com/remington2.html

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I ordered two today. I'll let you know what I think of them when they come in.

 

Sailorman, ken98k - what are your thoughts on they Butler Creek stocks?

 

It seems like every other weekend for the past month or so they've been offering $5.99 shipping for entire order - it is usually $9.99. So you can get two stocks shipped for just under $86.00.

 

I'm wondering if I shouldn't order a couple more. I curse myself for not ordering a couple more of the Parker Hale .308 bull barrels when Sarco had them cheap. Or a couple more of the Swedish Mauser surplus barrels when Sarco had them.

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I got the 2 I ordered. I think they're much better than synthetic Fagens.

They are made for Zastava rifles and have a cut for a trigger safety and the bolt handle, so those will need to be filled with epoxy.

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That's the same stock I used on my 7 mag turkingtom. I filled in the safety notch and bolt notch with marine-tex then recut the bolt notch to match my bolt then painted it. I also glassed in 2 sections of aluminum arrow shaft from the recoil lug to the sling swivel stud to stiffen up the fore end. It made up into a pretty nice stock. A lot of work, though.

 

Roger

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I ordered two today. I'll let you know what I think of them when they come in.

 

Sailorman, ken98k - what are your thoughts on they Butler Creek stocks?

 

It seems like every other weekend for the past month or so they've been offering $5.99 shipping for entire order - it is usually $9.99. So you can get two stocks shipped for just under $86.00.

 

I'm wondering if I shouldn't order a couple more. I curse myself for not ordering a couple more of the Parker Hale .308 bull barrels when Sarco had them cheap. Or a couple more of the Swedish Mauser surplus barrels when Sarco had them.

 

Well, I have two that I have used for a while mounted on my hunting rifles, and I like them. I did bed both of them, and my sons FireArms Company of England Mauser was out shooting my MKX Mauser. I nailed an elk in the head at 285 yds, paced off. The foreends tend to be a little more flexible than I like, but, for the price, they are very hard to beat. I plan on using the two I just got for knock around guns.

The PH bull barrels are nice, though the two I got had pitting on the outside. Rifling twist is about 1 in 13.5", which is about perfect for the 147 - 150 gr FMJ bullets. Mine seems to shoot 165 gr ok. I cut mine to 23.5", to make them a bit easier to handle, and now I wish I had not done both. I want to convert one to 300 Win Mag and keep it long to see how it will shoot. So, I guess I need to find one to try.

You might try to find one of the Norwegian Konigsberg target barrels. Heavy target barrels, in 308, and they are about 27 1/2" long. Twist is either 1 in 10" or 1 in 12", so they can shoot a wider range of bullets.

Sarco is still listing the PH barrels. Part numbers PH001 and PH009. I have no idea if the list is current, but you might try giving them a call.

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My two came in today. I had ordered the Mauser 98 Standard ones (http://www.cdnninvestments.com/mauserstocks.html) and I started thinking afterward that I hoped they didn't have military barrel channels. They didn't - they had normal sporter barrel channels.

 

From what I can tell CDNN has them listed under 3 different items and stock numbers (Click Stocks in left hand nav): one for Mauser 98 Standard, one for Charles Daly Mauser 98 and one for Remington 798. They are all Butler Creek stocks and have the same description. As I said I ordered the Mauser 98 Standard, but both mine have "Charles Daly" on the buttpad. My guess is that they are all the same thing. Perhaps the ones listed under Remington 798 say Remington on the buttpad - no idea, maybe someone else can confirm.

 

I cannot say that I'm disappointed because of the price, but I guess I was hoping for a little more. The descriptions say "black soft touch synthetic" and "custom fiberglass resin and smooth surface for comfort". I was hoping for something with a feel more like a Hogue overmolded stock. To me these feel no different than the Ramline or Corelite (now Fajen) stocks that I have. I personally like the feel (texture) of the Choate stock better than any of those three - it feels a little less cheap. I had hoped since these were the same thing as the production stocks that came on the Remingon 798s that they would be a little nicer than what they are. But again for $39.99 each I am still VERY satisfield. These stocks will get the front ends stiffened and filled with foam, they will be bedded and sprayed with textured paint anyway so the end result will be much better than what they are now and they'll end up making a good stock for a hunting rifle. All in all, I think the quality is probably a little better than the Ramline or Corelite stocks that I have (or have seen) and probably around the same as the Choate. The Choate stocks are now going for $90-$100 and the best prices I've seen recently for the Ramline and Corelite/Fajen stocks have been $60-$80. So basically for half the price of the others I'm really happy with it. Just don't expect something on par with McMillan or Hogue :)

 

Now all 3 items that CDNN has listed include "Will not fit military mausers!" in the description. I guess they're just covering themselves since we all know that nothing is really a drop-in fit. But I dropped a 1908 barreled action that I had sitting on my workbench and it fit fine, though it might need a little bit of material removed under the tang. As others mentioned a slot for the bolt handle has already been cut, they are relieved for a side safety, and they are relieved at the trigger guard with the two notches on each side (for mag release?). So it's not a 100% drop-in fit, but it will definitely work for military mausers if you can live with those things or you don't mind filling them yourself.

 

So don't be afraid to order one if you're looking for a cheap synthetic stock for your next build or just looking to stash one or two away for future builds. I doubt that we'll ever find another stock for this price again. I now have two of these, a Choate and an ATI stock waiting for projects in various phases so I doubt that I'll order any more from CDNN right now. But if they're still around later this summer after I get these builds complete then I might get a couple more to stash away.

 

And speaking of the ATI stocks, I had been planning to use one of the ATI Mauser stocks for a tactical style rifle with one of the Parker Hale bull barrels. I'd been putting the build off while I was finishing some others so I was in no hurry to buy the stock. I figured I would get one when they went on sale somewhere. I decided to go ahead and buy one from Midway last week, but found that it was out of stock and it said "manufacturer discontinued". I checked Brownell's, the ATI site itself and a couple of other places and they all said the same thing and I couldn't find one anywhere. I stumbled across a couple of posts and press releases that said that ATI was discontinuing the stock because of poor sales and mostly because of the issues with it (my guess is the stupid scope mount on the handguard and the stupid screw-in bolt they try to sell with it). I'm hoping that ATI will get rid of the top handguard and maybe redesign the stock a bit, but keep the Steyr Scout Rifle look, and re-release it for 2011, but who knows. I ended up getting lucky and finding one on Auction Arms that someone had used and a very good "Buy it Now" price. Anyway, it you've been thinking of getting one of the ATI stocks but putting it off then you might want to try to hunt one down now - though I have no idea who might still have them in stock. If you do find a store that still has them in stock please let me know as I'd like to buy one more for a future twin to the current tactical rifle build.

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I had contacted ATI inquiring if they had any " seconds " that would only affect mounting their

scope rail, explaining that I preferred a traditional scope mount. Hey I didn't want to pay for something

that I was going to throw away anyway. Their response was that they don't have " seconds ".

 

 

Well a short time later I got one off of Gunbroker for a good price.

I like the look & ergonomics but the things are heavy. I haven't weighed it against another but, it wouldn't

surprise me if it went as much as a pound more than another stock.

 

Tinke

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