rdm1962 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Took my 35 Whelen to the range again today. Durring my first range sesion I only loaded a max of 3 rounds at a time in the magazine. Today I tried to load 5 rounds. I could load all 5 rounds in the mag. but the first 2 rounds wouldn't get picked up by the bolt. It would push them free from the mag but the rim wouldn't get caught by extractor. Rounds 3,4 &5 would feed and extract just fine. Is this because of the differance in the body taper and/or over all length of the 35 vs 8x57? Would seating the bullet a little deeper solve this problem? I don't think that I would ever have a need for 5 rounds but would like to know the answer if anyone has it. Ralph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken98k Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 I would try some 8x57's to see how they cycle through the action. Remove the firing pin first if you use live ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdm1962 Posted March 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I had to load some 8x57 to see how they would cycle in my 35 Whelen. The 1st. and 2nd. 8x57 rounds jam as the Whelens do. It looks like they bind on the feed ramp. Anyone have any ideas? If not I can live with only 3 rounds in the mag. Ralph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gun nutty Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Remember something about a worn magazine spring. Can you swap that out and see if it makes a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstarling Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Remember something about a worn magazine spring. Can you swap that out and see if it makes a difference? The extractor maybe worn or not grabbing the case rim tightly. I did a 8x57 to 35 Whelen conversion and had the same problem. There were two issues. The extractor and also I had to open the forward part of the rails to guide the round better. The Whelen is wider at the tip of the round and needs more clearance near the feed ramp. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdm1962 Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I did some checking on what could be causing the binding in the mag. The spring is defiantly weak so I changed it. This made matters worse. The new stronger spring made all the rounds bind. The rounds are binding on the rials. My question is how much and how far back should they be opened up? Ralph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailormilan2 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Another thing that could cause problems is the follower. If you have a spare or two laying around, you might try swapping them around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemski4 Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Hmm sounds odd, I've done two 35 Whelen Ackley Improved's with no work to action or magazine. One a Springfield 03-a3, and one a 98 Mauser. Do you know if you have the correct follower in the mag? I assume you are working with a 98 Mauser? if so make sure you have a 98 follower in it and not a small ring follower. Just remember if you are going to modify a part, and are unsure about it, start with the least expensive part first. I would not think you need any feed rail work done to make this work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdm1962 Posted July 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Well here is what I have done so far. I pulled the follower, mag. spring and extractor out of my FN model 24. It stilled binds. I opened the rails up some and still binds. This being my 1st. build I don't know what the issue is. So before I screw something up it got shipped off to Clemson today. Ralph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gun nutty Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Maybe a little late... Some of my military rifles like a definite gap between the bottom of the receiver and the top of the magazine. I'm not talking much of a gap, but the two parts must not touch. At least on a couple of my pieces. You could shim the receiver up a bit and see if that works. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donmarkey Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Well here is what I have done so far. I pulled the follower, mag. spring and extractor out of my FN model 24. It stilled binds. I opened the rails up some and still binds. This being my 1st. build I don't know what the issue is. So before I screw something up it got shipped off to Clemson today. Ralph Great plan, feeding problems are something you need to see in person. There is no way to trouble shoot it properly without seeing exactly what it is doing. There are too many variables to try to trouble shoot it over the internet. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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