karlunity Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NUCLEAR_WEAPONS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Mr. Obama wants to get us down to 300 or less atomic weapons. China, I have read, has that many and Russia has Thousands. I support Ron Paul..but Mr. Obama has forced me to vote for who ever gets the GOP "nod" Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayak Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Mr. Obama will have no constraints upon him in his second term. He has already run roughshod over the Constitution, Congress and the will of the American people. If he manages to get re-elected (which wouldn't surprise me considering the ignorance of the population and their propensity to forget), he will push through radical programs by executive order and laugh in the face of those who oppose him. Please, vote his opposition, even if you have to hold your nose while doing so. This man would be the death of America as we have known it. But what else would one expect from a Marxist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitano Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://hosted.ap.org...EMPLATE=DEFAULT Mr. Obama wants to get us down to 300 or less atomic weapons. China, I have read, has that many and Russia has Thousands. I support Ron Paul..but Mr. Obama has forced me to vote for who ever gets the GOP "nod" Karl I breaks my heart that we have so much evil in the political leadership of this country that we are forced to vote for the lessor of two evils instead of voting for the one we believe to be the best leader. I too like Ron Paul's political views, (not sure what kind of "leader" he is though), but I believe all of the "conservatives" will vote for whomever the GOP nominates as their candidate. This is the essence of what politics has become in this country. It is precisely why Thomas Jefferson said that we should have a revolution every 20 years. With respect to Ron Paul's leadership abilities: I am of the opinion that highly successful businessmen make poor national leaders. A nation is not a company. Highly successful businessmen have a "bottom line" perspective INGRAINED over a long professional career. It is what made them successful businessmen. However, when it comes to LEADING a nation, "the bottom line" is often the exactly wrong perspective to have. The "bottom line" is NOT a moral rudder, and what this nation REALLY NEEDS is a leader with a moral rudder. I think the last man in the Whitehouse that actually had a moral rudder was Ike. Gerald Ford may have had one but he was destroyed by the "adolescents in charge" in Hollywood. Jimmy Carter had a moral rudder, but he was a coward and a blithering idiot. GW MAY have had a moral rudder hidden somewhere, but he hired truly EVIL men to work for him. A few years ago, when Sarah Palin beat Frank Murkowski for the govenor's seat in Alaska, the slogan was "ABM" = Anybody But Murkowski. I believe that for the conservatives of this country, ABO will be the chant, even if it is a RINO like Romney. The truth of that is precisely why this country is 'sliding towards Gomorrah". Just ol' unopinionated, Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayak Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I breaks my heart that we have so much evil in the political leadership of this country that we are forced to vote for the lessor of two evils instead of voting for the one we believe to be the best leader. I too like Ron Paul's political views, (not sure what kind of "leader" he is though), but I believe all of the "conservatives" will vote for whomever the GOP nominates as their candidate. This is the essence of what politics has become in this country. It is precisely why Thomas Jefferson said that we should have a revolution every 20 years. With respect to Ron Paul's leadership abilities: I am of the opinion that highly successful businessmen make poor national leaders. A nation is not a company. Highly successful businessmen have a "bottom line" perspective INGRAINED over a long professional career. It is what made them successful businessmen. However, when it comes to LEADING a nation, "the bottom line" is often the exactly wrong perspective to have. The "bottom line" is NOT a moral rudder, and what this nation REALLY NEEDS is a leader with a moral rudder. I think the last man in the Whitehouse that actually had a moral rudder was Ike. Gerald Ford may have had one but he was destroyed by the "adolescents in charge" in Hollywood. Jimmy Carter had a moral rudder, but he was a coward and a blithering idiot. GW MAY have had a moral rudder hidden somewhere, but he hired truly EVIL men to work for him. A few years ago, when Sarah Palin beat Frank Murkowski for the govenor's seat in Alaska, the slogan was "ABM" = Anybody But Murkowski. I believe that for the conservatives of this country, ABO will be the chant, even if it is a RINO like Romney. The truth of that is precisely why this country is 'sliding towards Gomorrah". Just ol' unopinionated, Paul Moral rudder? That would be nice. Unfortunately, our school system has been teaching kids for the last 60 some years that all is relative and that there is no Higher Power they need to answer to. I believe we are in a post Judeo-Christian era in which it is every man for himself with little view to the future. I hope I am wrong. Santorum has a few skeletons in his closet regarding government spending, but he seems to be the only front runner to have a somewhat reliable moral compass. I have cast my support behind him. IMO a Santorum-Bachman ticket is the best hope for America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzRednek Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Get a look at this Obama video. Not only class warfare it is black against white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitano Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I think Bachman would be the same kiss of death for Santorum that Palin was for McCain. The "adolescents in charge" will have a heyday with her and the IDIOTS that listen to that propaganda will vote against the GOP just like they did last time. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiris Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 I know that for some, it sticks in your craw that it seems that you have to compromise your principals in selecting a candidate, but I know that you see the Big Picture, and for the sake of America and ourselves, we absolutely need to fire obama the incompetent. The corruption of the obama administration is rampant, his executive orders and appointments border on unconstitutional, and his view of America is as a socialist by design. Whoever emerges as the GOP candidate will need and deserve our undivided support, because the alternative is not an option. "Anybody but obama" is the only choice that is viable, because another four years of obama, would spell disaster for the America that we know and love. I would love to see Mitch Daniels or Bobby Jindal in the fight, but alas, they are not. Spiris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlunity Posted February 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 The atomic weapons are the key. If we are down to say 300 and are forced to fire at least 65 % may be shot down...now do the math, if Russia fires several thousand...who wins? In an Atomic war,large fleets are just big targets and in a conventional war...china could trade us 5 to one and still win. This a matter of national life or death. I fear that the USA may well be put into a position where the pols accept "UN" sponsorship of the USA rather than fight such a war. In the words of JFK..."Better Red then dead" Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayak Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I think Bachman would be the same kiss of death for Santorum that Palin was for McCain. The "adolescents in charge" will have a heyday with her and the IDIOTS that listen to that propaganda will vote against the GOP just like they did last time. Paul Bachman is no Palin. She has had experience in the upper echelons of government and has run for president. Palin's experience before she ran as VP was as a mayor of a small Alaska town and part time governor McCain himself was his own kiss of death. He is a RINO and over the hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Unopinionated Paul? Is that OUR Paul? Nah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitano Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 She has had experience in the upper echelons of government and has run for president. I suppose you intend that as an endorsement. Not to me. In fact, quite the contrary. I'm sick and tired of "professional" politicians. You apparently buy into the Saturday Night Live version of Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin beat an arrogant, old-school, far right, state congressman that had been a congressman for 20 some-odd years when he decided he wanted to be governor. He was the biggest son of a bachelor I have EVER seen in political office, and that includes Tricky Dick Nixon. The good old boys of the Alaskan Republican Party treated Palin like a child - pretty much what SNL and Tina Fey did - and she kicked their lazy, arrogant asses. When she got in office, she started CHANGING things IN A VERY GOOD WAY. The country could have done a lot worse than Sarah Palin as VP, AND THEY DID. You talk about not wanting a RINO, but willing to vote for essentially anybody - including ANOTHER professional politician - if it means beating Obama, yet out of the other side of you mouth bad-mouth McCain. Please reconcile how "any body but Obama" "works" now, but didn't apply when McCain ran. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gitano Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Unopinionated Paul? Is that OUR Paul? Nah! "Iyam what Iyam and that's all that Iyam" (Popeye the Sailor Man - my hero.) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayak Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 I suppose you intend that as an endorsement. Not to me. In fact, quite the contrary. I'm sick and tired of "professional" politicians. You apparently buy into the Saturday Night Live version of Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin beat an arrogant, old-school, far right, state congressman that had been a congressman for 20 some-odd years when he decided he wanted to be governor. He was the biggest son of a bachelor I have EVER seen in political office, and that includes Tricky Dick Nixon. The good old boys of the Alaskan Republican Party treated Palin like a child - pretty much what SNL and Tina Fey did - and she kicked their lazy, arrogant asses. When she got in office, she started CHANGING things IN A VERY GOOD WAY. The country could have done a lot worse than Sarah Palin as VP, AND THEY DID. You talk about not wanting a RINO, but willing to vote for essentially anybody - including ANOTHER professional politician - if it means beating Obama, yet out of the other side of you mouth bad-mouth McCain. Please reconcile how "any body but Obama" "works" now, but didn't apply when McCain ran. Paul Geesh calm down! I have nothing against Palin and am, in fact related to her. I have a problem with the way she bailed out as governor ( I guess you didn't catch my nuance). Murkowski you say.... he lost because he was an arrogant bustard who did not care what Alaskans thought about anything. Remember the plane indcident? McCain? I respect the man for his service to our country but not the way he has reached across the aisle time after time in compromise with the left. Nevertheless I voted for McCain in the last election, so I don't know how you came up with "Please reconcile how "any body but Obama" "works" now, but didn't apply when McCain ran.". Makes no sense. I want no RINO. I want a person who stands firm for conservative values and has a moral backbone. Santorum and Bachman seem to have those qualities. Do I care if you agree with me? No, not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken98k Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Sarah Palin beat an arrogant, old-school, far right, state congressman that had been a congressman for 20 some-odd years when he decided he wanted to be governor. He was the biggest son of a bachelor I have EVER seen in political office, and that includes Tricky Dick Nixon. Actually, Murkowski lost to Palin due almost entirely to his own arrogance on 3 points. #1 was the jet. Remember his personal Leer jet that he went around or over the state legislature and the people of Alaska to get? That was Sarah's battle cry during the campaign; she would get rid of the jet. She did! I thank her for keeping that promise. #2 was the way he pimped off his daughter and appointed her to the US senate. As it turns out the moronic voters of Alaska are happy having a socialist senator so they keep her there, and even sent comrade Begich to assist her. #3 Secret Dealings with the big oil companies concerning the gas line that never was. Yes, Sarah could have become a good governor in time, however, ------. President? No! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayak Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 Actually, Murkowski lost to Palin due almost entirely to his own arrogance on 3 points. #1 was the jet. Remember his personal Leer jet that he went around or over the state legislature and the people of Alaska to get? That was Sarah's battle cry during the campaign; she would get rid of the jet. She did! I thank her for keeping that promise. #2 was the way he pimped off his daughter and appointed her to the US senate. As it turns out the moronic voters of Alaska are happy having a socialist senator so they keep her there, and even sent comrade Begich to assist her. #3 Secret Dealings with the big oil companies concerning the gas line that never was. Yes, Sarah could have become a good governor in time, however, ------. President? No! True on all points re: Papa Murkowski, Ken (who by the way Paul, was not a congressman but a senator). If there ever was a RINO Lisa is it. If she had not scared the natives into an emergency write-in campaign she would have been out on her keester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlunity Posted February 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 While I don't care to vote Rino..if it is that or Obama, in light of his stand on our atomic weapons, I vote rino. Nobody every said I had to like it...I just have to do it. karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayak Posted February 16, 2012 Report Share Posted February 16, 2012 While I don't care to vote Rino..if it is that or Obama, in light of his stand on our atomic weapons, I vote rino. Nobody every said I had to like it...I just have to do it. karl Absolutely right, as per Ken's signature line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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