albertashooter Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 i have picked up a BSA p17 that has been partially sporterized.The action has been steamlined and drilled and tapped for a scope and nicely blead blasted.It also been fitted with 3.60 inch commercial magazine box. However it has no bolt stop,extractor,mag spring,follower or any trigger parts. I was trying to put together a list of parts required to put this gun together and checking out Numrichs web site when I saw that they list the P14 eddystone and winchester followers seperate. They have no p17 parts listed. What is the difference.if any, between the two and which would work best for my application?Also if any one knows where there is a decent schematic on line for p17s,could you let me know. I have never had one apart before and it is hart to tell all I need to order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiris Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Try Springfield Sporters, I think they will have most of what you need. Here's a link. http://www.ssporters.com/ Spiris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odies dad Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Not sure but I would guess that the P14 (303) follower would be contoured differently than the model 17 (3006). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eric Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 P-14's were not fully standardized among the manufacturers, hence the reason for the different followers. suspect this was resolved for M17 manufacture. Regardless, you'll need specific M17 hardware, particularly in the area of the mag bits, as they were redesigned for the longer rimless cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donmarkey Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Numrich parts for 1917's are listed under us military, not enfield I ordered a 1917 bolt stop and perch from them for a p14. The only difference between the 14 and 17 is the perch. Then 17's look nicer, both work. Numrich lists parts by manufarture because if you are restoring a rifle you don't want a part marked E on a winchester. All the parts between 1917's and P14 are interchangeable except for the bolt group. If you need to do minor fitting, it's because of varying manufactors tolorances. The p14 follower is also shorter, size the follower by the cartridge you intend to use, magnum mauser followers work well in long mag's. -Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertashooter Posted March 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Thanks, excellant advice on the replies.Very helpful.The action came with a prethreaded, short chambered .416 Rem barrel#5 contour.Although I would have prefered a .375 I will probably use what i got and put together a .416 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc0332 Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Is a .416 Rigby bigger than a .416 Rem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiris Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 The .416 Rigby is larger and holds 122 gr. of water, compared to the .416 Rem holding 97 gr. of water. Regardless, they are near ballistic twins due to the Rigby's lower pressure limits. Both can achieve over 5000 ft. lb. of energy with a 400 gr. bullet. http://ammoguide.com/?catid=164 http://ammoguide.com/?catid=151 Spiris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrScott Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Look at this link for some pictures of my P17 converted to 416 Remington. http://forums.accuratereloading.com/groupe...02224#925102224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donmarkey Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Look at this link for some pictures of my P17 converted to 416 Remington. http://forums.accuratereloading.com/groupe...02224#925102224 Great job! -Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzRednek Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Really something to be proud of!! Your picture gave me a real swift kick as a reminder to get my ongoing projects done and get started on my Enfields. If mine turns out 50% as nice as yours I'll be more than satisfied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc0332 Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 That is a beautiful rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 That's a very fine,custom looking rifle Dr Scott!!! I always kinda had a yearning for a 1917,but not kinda anymore.Got to have one,and I'm planning on going to Africa next year,and think a .416 would be the berries.Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downwindtracker2 Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 I have a mixmaster M'17 308Norma sporter and a P-14,the ejector,mag box and bottom metal are all different. I have never looked at the followers. To help the 308 feed,I had to roll (grind away) the center lip of the follower.Like a post war commerical FN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertashooter Posted March 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 DrScott Great job. The same look that I hope to achieve. Would any one know where I can find a Mauser magnum follower as Donmarkey suggests? I have been searching with no results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donmarkey Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Wisners has magnum followers. LA rem 700 followers work also. The ejector are different because the 303 is a rimmed cartridge. If you're converting calibers I'd use a 1917 ejector. The mag boxed are sized for shell length, 303 being the shortest. I've got a rem 700 follower in one my p14's with a long magnum box from numrich. It fit perfectly. -Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downwindtracker2 Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Did you try Weastern Gun parts in Edmonton? http://www.westerngunparts.com/main_page.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertashooter Posted April 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Been gone for a few days and do I feel stupid .I have ordered from Western Gun Parts many a time and never gave them a thought. I have their reference manual and they show magnum followers for the Browning high power bolt rifle. I will call them in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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